Monday’s Substack offering, Dumping Trump, is now available for perusal, gimlet-eyed scrutiny, and rancorous, hateful debate. It’s a look at the metastasizing phenomenon of former Trump supporters who have succumbed to Trump Fatigue and have kicked the Trump habit for good. A sample:
I’m not even remotely likely to vote in any more presidential “elections” unless and until real, sweeping “election” reform is enacted, which is clearly not on the Uniparty menu. So I can’t fairly say I have a dog in the Trump vs DeSantis vs Pence *gag* vs whothehellever fight, really. Be that as it may, I’m not immune to a twinge of Trump Fatigue myself with each new boast, each new declaration of what-all he’s by God gonna do “when” he retakes the White House in 2024, after doing none of those things back in 2016-2020 when he had the chance. Nowadays, I find myself about as likely to groan in exhausted ennui as I am to laugh along with him as I was still doing only a year or so ago. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice? Not happening, sorry.
In Trump’s defense, it’s as I’ve said so many times, dating all the way back to the 2015 announcement of his candidacy: the dumpster fire in Mordor On The Potomac was not set alight by one president in one term; it took many decades of assiduous stoking, spanning many presidential administrations both Demican and Republicrat, to get the conflagration really roaring. That being so, it is wholly unreasonable to expect that one president might be able to put it out, particularly with the entirety of the Deep State apparatus and every critter in the Swamp sneakily turning off the hydrant and poking holes in the hose. Trump managed to dig out a decent firebreak to slow it down, but that was the extent of it. And even then, the fire jumped the line and continued on as before, the very day he left office.
Go ye and read of it, for it…will probably piss you right the hell off, actually. But hey, that’s all part of the fun.
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Metastasize:
to spread or grow by or as if by metastasis
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metastasize
President Trump CRUSHING DeSantis by 20 points in FLORIDA
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/03/big-data-poll-president-trump-crushing-governor-desantis-by-20-points-in-florida-after-home-state-campaign-launch/
GOP Voters Favor Trump Over DeSantis Nearly 2-to-1
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/gop_voters_favor_trump_over_desantis_nearly_2_to_1
There is some metastasizing going on alright, just not in favor of the Bush family Frat boy.
What is not happening – no bump for DeSantis, no growing at all, not at the moment at least. And no campaigning in his home state. Why is that? See above Florida polling.
“Mr. Kemp recounts the conversation as follows:…”
You can knock Trump for many things, some accurate most not, but when you start taking the side of a fucking crook, then you are as dumb as dirt. Kemp is as shady and crooked as they come, an outright liar. A governor of a state where massive election fraud occurred and he helped keep it covered up. He was probably a part of it.
Once you state, publicly, that you believe the deep snake, then why would anyone trust your judgement on anything else?
Trust MY judgment? Surely you jest, Barr. Everyone who knows me well knows how bad an idea that is, and I would never recommend trying it. 😉
As for Kemp, I do seem to recall Trump blasting him for re-opening “too early” as Kemp claims, although I must also say I don’t really like Kemp all that much, and never really did; his supine acquiescence in the 2020 “election” brouhaha was every bit as bad as Pence’s, maybe even worse.
The DeSantis/Trump poll numbers get only a big meh from me; as I said when he finally did announce, I’m all done with Ronny D. He’s accomplished some genuinely good things in FLA, particularly in standing up to the gender-bending pedos; I very much wish he had chosen to stay on as Gov and continued that fine work instead of chasing his own tail and fluffing his ego by seeking a higher office in which he’ll never be allowed to accomplish a damned thing except line his pockets and give useless speeches.
For me, Kemp is a lot like Abbott in TX: both have done some things I like, but in the end have also fallen well short on certain others. You’ve commended Stitt in OK to our attention more than once here, but I have to admit I really don’t know a hell of a lot about the guy. I intend to look into educating myself soon; if he’s the real deal as you say–as Ronny D, Kemp, and Abbott aren’t–I’d like to know more about him, if only for the sake of broadening my own horizons a little bit.
Heh, well I was speaking of trusting the quoted dude, the believer of a corrupt gov, not you Mike.
I trust you to give an honest opinion, agree or not.
Iron bear was the one that pointed out Stitt to me. Seems to be the real deal without all the made up bs
Stitt is a huge immigration squish. He went so far as to beg Mexico to put a consulate in Oklahoma City so that the illegals in his state didn’t have to drive so far.
He did a great job during the Covidiocy. But it takes more than that. Immigration is one of the key ways that the USA is turning into a Third World country. Yeah, I know. Trump is promising to do all the stuff that he promised to do in his first term and didn’t. But he’ll really do it this time. Really.
As far as Kemp goes, I remember well that Trump excoriated him loudly and publicly for reopening “too soon.” And, yes, praising DeSantis for doing the same thing just a few weeks later.
Kemp was a POS during the election theft – but Trump didn’t exactly earn himself any favors with his Covidiocy outburst at Kemp. Not an excuse – what is right is right. But that might explain some things.
Marx’s little helper, Unskeptic, is a liar.
“Yeah, I know. Trump is promising to do all the stuff that he promised to do in his first term and didn’t. But he’ll really do it this time. Really.”
Trump clamped down on immigration better than ANYONE since Ike, and did it with what tools he could, including forcing Mexico to use their Nat Guard to stop the illegals and keep them in Mexico. And Mexico paid for that. The republican party, in control of both houses, refused to spend money to build a wall, and the owners of his marxist buddy DeSantis are all in on open borders. DeSantis is just another McCain, talk until elected then zip.
Trump brought the economy roaring back, unlike anyone has ever done in history.
All Trump did in his first term, all on his own basically is the following:
1) stopped ISIS cold
2) EO stopping the drug companies from charging medicare more than what they charged foreign countries
3) EO forcing hospitals to disclose their prices
4) Move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem
5) ENERGY INDEPENDENCE for the first time in my lifetime of 70 years, and record low energy prices
6) Started no new wars
7) Elimination of regulations, required to eliminate 8 to add a new one
8) Cut Taxes across the board
9) Increased the individual tax credit eliminating the need to file more complicated returns
10) Started the space force, sorely needed today
11) Replaced NAFTA with an agreement better for American workers
12) Put tariffs on china, starting the process of moving American production out of the enemy’s land
13) Brought back massive amounts of money saved in foreign countries
14) Withdrew from the farce know as the Paris Climate Accords
15) Withdrew from the Iran deal
16) Increased the $$$ of the average family by over 5K
17) Started the process of fixing the VA
18) Increased the spending by other NATO countries
19) Killed the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)
20) Created several million jobs, actual creation not bafflegab bullshit
21) Economic growth rates were going up, somewhere around 4% before the marxist killed the economy with the scam chinaVirus
22) Lowest rate of unemployment ever, across the board for blacks, hispanics, asians, veterans, etc.
23) Opened ANWAR and had the Keystone pipeline being constructed
There is much more of course.
Anyone claiming Trump did not do what he promised to do, or at least tried to do it, is an outright fraud, liar, and marxist enabler.
Imperfect, sure, as we all are. Did failures occur? Of course. But having some items fizzle is normal for the very best of presidents.
Liars are going to lie and we see it right here.
Search with duck duck go the following “Gov Stitt on illegal immigration” if you wish to see the truth.
See if you can find him “begging” for any damn thing.
Skeptic is an outright liar. He’s on the other side.
I think I’m pretty well done with Trump, too. Even if I thought he could get through the primary (a possibility I won’t completely discount), he isn’t electable. I am leaning right now toward your attitude of “why bother voting at all in the presidential elections”, but I know myself well enough to know that by 2024’s election, I’ll vote again even though I think it a total shit show. Excuse my language. I’m also rather disappointed in DeSantis for running, though that’s not precisely relevant to this post. He should have stayed in Florida where, at least from the outside, he appeared to be doing some good. Does Florida term limit their governors?
Not until the fraud of the past three elections is stopped.
One sure way to make certain it can’t be fixed is to be a pussy and stay home, not voting. Hiding, hoping the bad orange man will just go away.
“I think I’m pretty well done with Trump, too.”
Well you can always try to get Jeb! to run again.
Suggest an alternative, someone willing to risk everything to run against the entire deep state apparatus, willing to undergo years of corrupt investigations. Suggest someone not supported by the GOP and the wall st billionaires, someone unencumbered by having taken the Rupert Murdoch payoff. I suspect you will not respond with a single name.
Please clap.
Exactly. Trump ain’t hardly perfect but he’s the best available. Prove me wrong — really, I’d be glad of it. Find someone as good, let alone better.
You’re right that I don’t have a name for someone to support. I never claimed to have anything better. I’m out of hope for better days at the moment. My point was that I don’t think Trump will be allowed to win even should he make it through the nomination process and don’t see anyone else I’m dying to vote for either. Trump has a bad habit of saying the wrong thing at the wrong time and undermining his own cause, as we’ve seen often during his presidency when people would attempt to distract from whatever good he was doing by discussing his latest mean tweet, and since 2020’s farce of an election. Now he has legal trouble out the ass, and questionable as the legal mumbo jumbo might be, there is a sizeable fraction of the population I think will just see his list of legal woes and blow him off. The drive-by media are doing a pretty good job of covering up the Biden grunge, far as I’m aware, anyway. Whether people will be smart enough to see that Biden’s so far down the slope mentally that you couldn’t pull him up with a mile of rope, and so dirty that you couldn’t clean him up with a pressure washer, or that his VP is a total airhead, are all matters for question also. Yes, I’ve admittedly lost faith in my fellow Americans to see through much of the BS that life has become. Should he be the nominee, I will likely vote for him, as I did in 2020. Until the time comes to cast my votes, I am watching him and the others in the field. Isn’t that what you’re supposed to be doing as a thinking voter? I said I’m done with Trump because I don’t hold out any actual hope that he’ll be allowed to win or that even if he did he’d make more than a largely removable dent in the clusterfuck that is America 2.0. We’ve already seen that much of said dent was removed when Biden took office. I did not say I’m done with him because I support the Bush crowd. At this point I don’t know who I’m going to vote for in the primary at all. I just know it’ll be “Not Biden” in the general.
Pardon the reaction stuff. My screen reader doesn’t read those links, so I now have reactions when I was trying to edit my comment, which doesn’t seem to be doable — or at least I have failed to do it. Basically I was going to shorten things up if I could and try to be clearer. I’m generally discontented with the field and don’t see any better days on the horizon for our country. We’ve got Trump, who has enough baggage to load up half a dozen planes and I doubt isn’t electable to the general population in even if he gets through the primary, another guy who maybe ought to have stayed in Florida, and mostly a bunch of other guys no one knows well enough to make heads or tails of. “I’m done” in the sense that I’m not expecting to see anything spectacular from Trump, or anybody else for that matter. People have their minds made up about Trump in particular, I think, so I’m done again in the sense that I don’t need to hear any more from or about him. I’m just not interested anymore. Call it Trump fatigue if you want. Unfortunately the election cycle never ends and so I’ll end up watching him and the others anyway.
“Trump has a bad habit of saying the wrong thing at the wrong time…”
Example please!
“We’ve got Trump, who has enough baggage to load up half a dozen planes and I doubt isn’t electable to the general population in even if he gets through the primary…”
Baggage? What Baggage other than the made up phony bullshit pushed by the fake news media.
Let’s start with the R primary:
What alternate universe do you live in? I’m sorry to spoil your alternate reality, but Trump is up by nearly 40 points over the next highest candidate. And it’s Rasmussen, one of the actual responsible and decent pollsters out there. I mean really, “even if”?
Now for the general – What alternate universe do you live in? Trump won in 2016. Trump won going away in 2020. There was a coup and the presidency was stolen from Trump in 2020, but you say “isn’t electable”?
OK, I appreciate the honest answer. That’s more than we get from most of the neverTrumpers.
In any event, the deep state worked very hard to give you “Trump fatigue”. You have fallen for it, they win over you.
Myself and other freedom loving Americans will not give in. We recognize the first term accomplishments of President Trump, the just revised (thanks to Kenny) list:
1) stopped ISIS cold
2) EO stopping the drug companies from charging medicare more than what they charged foreign countries
3) EO forcing hospitals to disclose their prices
4) Move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem
5) ENERGY INDEPENDENCE for the first time in my lifetime of 70 years, and record low energy prices
6) Started no new wars
6A) Abraham Accords, bringing peace to the middle east instead of war
7) Elimination of regulations, required to eliminate 8 to add a new one
8) Cut Taxes across the board
9) Increased the individual tax credit eliminating the need to file more complicated returns
10) Started the space force, sorely needed today
11) Replaced NAFTA with an agreement better for American workers
12) Put tariffs on china, starting the process of moving American production out of the enemy’s land
13) Brought back massive amounts of money saved in foreign countries
14) Withdrew from the farce know as the Paris Climate Accords
15) Withdrew from the Iran deal
16) Increased the $$$ of the average family by over 5K
17) Started the process of fixing the VA
18) Increased the spending by other NATO countries
19) Killed the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)
20) Created several million jobs, actual creation not bafflegab bullshit
21) Economic growth rates were going up, somewhere around 4% before the marxist killed the economy with the scam chinaVirus
22) Lowest rate of unemployment ever, across the board for blacks, hispanics, asians, veterans, etc.
23) Opened ANWAR and had the Keystone pipeline being constructed
There is much more of course.
That’s just a short list. Trump did this by himself, with little to no help from the republican party and complete opposition from republican party and the democrats. He did this while the deep state through the FBI, intelligence agencies, congress, and the DOJ were conducting illegal surveillance and investigations. But Trump didn’t falter, didn’t stop. He just kept on working.
No one else was capable of doing this, no one else has ever done this, no one else will.
These are the facts. There is no argument with these.
“I was trying to edit my comment, which doesn’t seem to be doable — or at least I have failed to do it.”
For future reference FF, roll your mouse over the lower right corner of the comment you want to edit within a few minutes of posting it (WP has a time limit for that, but I can’t remember how much time it’s set for; ten or maybe fifteen minutes, I believe it is), and you should see a little gear-looking icon there. Click on that, and a tiny window saying “Edit” should pop up. Click that and you should be off and running.