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The Daily Donnybrook

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  1. The Patriot Party led by Trump would get 23% support right out of the gate.
    17% would remain republican according to the survey.
    I call BS. Were Trump to take the reins and declare opposition to the filthy republican pig party the Patriot Party would get to the 45% range very quickly.

    1. Stopping the Fraud is what is needed though.

      Trump had 100% of Right wing support and still lost, which represented probably 55% of the legitimate vote.

      I wish I had been more aware of the stakes when I was younger in 1992. I would have supported Perot like Trump did and perhaps between them we could have taken over by well before now.

      I was very conservative by then already and wary of the GOP as much as the Dems but I had no real understanding yet of why and how Perot was the real conservative. I just thought he was a different kind of egotist.

      I do admit I bought the whole tanking of his VP pick because of the debate issue as well. I was working 12 hour days and going to Graduate School at night then and so saw nothing of the actual debates. I had no idea who he was and why he said what he said and figured Perot had bad decision making skills in choosing him. It wasn’t until much later that I understood that he was being self deprecating in what he said. Typical MSM of the time his performance was snipped out of context and presented unfairly.

      1. Don’t feel too bad, I didn’t vote Perot either. I though he was a bit loony, but I was wrong, and even if I wasn’t, Perot was the choice I should have made. I didn’t make that mistake again.

        1. I did vote for Perot and encouraged others to do so. Though it would be more accurate to say I voted against Clinton and Bush.

          1. Several of my friends voted Perot and were flabbergasted I said no to Perot.

            After thinking about it I remember now more precisely why I didn’t vote for Perot and why I was willing to vote Bush –

            1) It was known, or thought, that Perot hated Bush for personal reasons, and that was why he was running, just to try and derail Bush. (true or not it is what I thought)

            2) Bush was a WW2 Navy aviator, shot down in action in the pacific – I am a student of the WW2 pacific naval battles and that weighed on my mind.

            My mistake.

        2. I voted Perot.

          Bush Senior sank himself with gun owners as far as I was concerned with his support for the Hughes Amendment. Both of them sank themselves with support for NAFTA. Perot’s anti-NAFTA stance was his biggest draw for me.

          All of the “common wisdom” says that Perot caused Bush to lose by stealing votes from him that gave Clinton the margin. Common wisdom isn’t common, and it ain’t wisdom.

          Numbers said that Perot took votes from Clinton proportionate to what he took from Bush. If he hadn’t dropped out and then in again, he’d have taken even more from both. Enough to cause him to pull a Trump and win… ? Maybe not. We’ll never know.

          1) It was known, or thought, that Perot hated Bush for personal reasons, and that was why he was running, just to try and derail Bush. (true or not it is what I thought)

          Perot did hate Bush senior for personal reasons. Perot had perfectly good reasons to hate Bush and the Bush clan for personal reasons. Bush as CIA head was largely responsible for sinking Perot’s hostage crisis efforts during the Iran crisis, as well as a number of hinky maneuvers that were designed to hurt Perot’s business dealings in the same time frames.

          I absolutely had zero trouble believing Perot’s claims that Bush threatened his daughter’s wedding and himself, and that was why he dropped out the first time. That’s exactly the kind of crap the CIA under Bush’s tenure pulled on an international level, just applied to domestic politics. No problems believing it whatsoever.

          2) Bush was a WW2 Navy aviator, shot down in action in the pacific – I am a student of the WW2 pacific naval battles and that weighed on my mind.

          Wah. So am I, as well as having the bulk of the male members of my family serve in the Pacific during WWII.

          Bush really was a military hero in WWII, but that to me didn’t mean that he wasn’t an evil sumbitch as head of the CIA or in his family’s oil dealings, nor that he was a good political leader and keeper of Reagan’s legacy.

          Now, of course, in hindsight, I still think that it worked out okay, even though Perot lost and despite Clinton’s AWB. Just the same as I think we dodged a bullet with McCain and Romney losing to Obama, Clinton probably did less damage overall than Bush would have with a second term.

          And I say that as someone who was wholeheartedly a GWB supporter later on. Had no way of realizing that Shrub was going to turn out to be a fully owned by the globalists anti-American the way he did, and at least he was better all around than Gore or Kerry would have been.

          *grin* I was a Pat Buchanan supporter also. Guess I just have an instinct for lost causes. 🙂

          1. I’ve never thought Perot caused Bush to lose in the total popular vote sense. My own analysis at the time says it did increase the Clinton margin due to the Southern states Clinton won. Absent Perot it might have been closer but Bush would have lost IMO.

            At the time, knowing several CIA employee’s, I was pretty certain that the CIA was a patriotic bunch with a few bad apples. Maybe it was in ’92, maybe it wasn’t. It damn sure is a corrupt bunch through and through now.

            No, as stated, I believed Bush to be honorable if flawed. I was wrong, he was corrupt to the core as are his son$.

            1. Yeah. We were both wrong about the sons. Especially GWB. Like you on Pappy Bush, I thought that Shrub was flawed, but a basically okay guy.

              Boy, was I wrong.

              I had the opposite on the Spooks. I got fairly up close looks at the “Drug War” BS that the CIA and their, err, “contractors” were doing in Columbia and Peru with the FARC and Cartel interdiction when I was down in Brazil.

              Kind of why I didn’t trust Jesse Ventura after I learned that he did work for the CIA’s Special Activities Center while he was in SOF. And why, while I never had anything against the man, I never fully trusted Frank Camper or anyone who came out of Merc School.

              It was kind of a given in the contractor community that if you did work for the Company, especially the Special Activities Center, there was something hinky about you. I much later had that confirmed by the opinions of several former Special Ops type vets I got to know later on: they had pretty much the same opinions on Special Activities Center and its operators.

              So I guess you could say that I was, ahh, predisposed to dislike and distrust Bush Senior by the time he was in politics.

              Heya, for all I know, your acquaintances were the norm in the CIA’s other divisions: just regular Joes who worked for The Company. But the Special Activities Center gave the rest of the outfit a really bad smell.

              1. I had a professor that was CIA and two friends from childhood that went CIA after military special forces. But they were all on the Russian front, cold war shit. The professor, we suspected he was, but only later did it get confirmed. He was a mountain climber which is why he and I got along so well. He taught Russian history and politics. I found out later after he passed away from old age that he parachuted into the Ural mountains to observe the russki military operations. The southern operations were all invloved with the Colombia drug trade/war according to a friend that served in the area (but not CIA). I think I mentioned him to you before.

                I went to Colombia several times on business, and there was always an air of trouble among the customers there. They were always worried hell was going to break loose.

                Anyway, so yea, it’s probably the difference in where with the drug trade corrupting everything.

                1. The southern operations were all invloved with the Colombia drug trade/war according to a friend that served in the area (but not CIA). I think I mentioned him to you before.

                  Yeah, it’s one of the almost completely-unknown-to-the-general-public secrets that we (the USA) had ahh… something on the order of 5-10k troops in Columbia and Peru in the 80s that were involved in counter-trafficking and drug interdiction.

                  And that was in addition to the CIA’s anti-narco ops and Special Activities Center operatives. Plus the DEA.

                  I don’t even know how many US troops were involved in similar operations in Ecuador, Bolivia, and Central America during the same time frame. You’d have to ask someone like Kratman who might know.

                  I went to Colombia several times on business, and there was always an air of trouble among the customers there. They were always worried hell was going to break loose.

                  What time frame?

                  I ask because it was a very real worry in the 80s, as the Medellin were blowing up and assassinating judges right and left, and the FARC were setting off mailbox bombs all over, and kidnapping/ransom was a MAJOR cottage industry in that area during the 80s.

                  Hell, there were several Executive Protection Services firms *cough cough* Contractors *cough* Mercenary outfits *cough cough* that made their bones and major bank from training bodyguards and personal protection teams and providing security for execs and their families there.

                  Not to mention the HK School – Heckler & Koch’s executive security training outfit – that made major bank during that time period teaching offensive diving and anti-kidnapping courses to execs and their families.

                  1. ’89 was my first trip, and on into the early /mid 90’s.

                    I went to El Salvador just after the cease fire began. The machine gun placements were still in San Salvador. I often ate dinner just down from the American Embassy sitting next to a tree where our Marines were assassinated.

                    1. *nod* I was down there early mid-1980 to ’82. Well, I spent most of mid-81 to mid-82 boat bumming around the lower Caribbean, but still in the vicinity.

        3. Seriously, Barry, Kenny – can’t look at it via hindsight. Argument boils down to “I voted for Perot and you didn’t and I was right – neener, neener!” which is soul satisfying, but ultimately futile. 🙂

          It’s past. We made the best choices and decisions we could at the time based on what we knew. I probably had a bit more information on Bush, Clinton, and Perot than you guys did at the time, so I made a different decision. Same for SteveF, most likely.

          In the 2000s, I didn’t quite have the concept of the Uniparty that we do now. I still thought that there were at least some major differences between the Democrats and the Republicans as a practical matter. More fool me.

          Now we’ve all got twenty years more observation and empirical evidence that tells us, no, they really are flip sides of the same globalist party. We’d know better today than we did in 2000, or in 1992.

          Even so: Shrub really was the lesser evil at that time. We have enough information and actions from both John Kerry and Al Gore to show that they would have been absolute and unmitigated disasters, rather than just the relative disaster that Bush Jr. was.

          At least we all came down on the side of the angels with supporting Trump in 2015-2020.

          1. There is no argument, Kenny and I are admitting we were wrong. We’re just discovering why we were wrong. An understanding of that might lead to better decisions by someone else reading…

            Shrub the lesser evil? Maybe. I thought so then. 20 years later and we’re still in Iraq and Afghanistan and the patriot act is being used against patriots. I’m not so sure anymore.

            1. No. He was. I mean, seriously, look at all of the crap that Gore and Kerry have done, said, and been associated with after their Presidential runs in 2000 and 2004. Not even counting their records from before 2000.

              They’d have been disasters on the level of a Joe Biden scale, rather than Hurricane Shrub.

              Shrub, for all his faults – and there are many – was at least marginally competent, for certain values of competency. He may have been a Globalist shill, but he didn’t completely hate America, and he was an adequate manager.

              Gore, in comparison, could fuck up organizing a porn shoot in a whorehouse. Kerry couldn’t put together a keg party in a brewery.

              Put their unmitigated arrogance and incompetence together with the fact that they both hated and detested Americans and America, and they’d have been disasters on a Biblical scale compared to Shrub.

              Just like Joe and the Ho are gonna make us wish Bill Clinton was back in office, and make us long for the halcyon days of Obama. Mark my words. 🙂

              1. As I say, Maybe. While Shrub seemed nominally to care about Americans I’m not so sure Gore/Kerry would have been any damn worse. Bush got a free pass because we *thought* he was American. At least we would have opposed gore/kerry.

                A good friends son died as a result of Afghanistan. He didn’t need to.

                1. Heh. Thankfully, we’ll never have to find out. Both Kerry and Gore’s sell by dates are hopefully long, long past. 🙂

                    1. Yeah. But I doubt that Lurch will ever be in the oval orifice.

                      Then again, now that they no longer have to worry about actually winning an election, who knows?

          2. “At least we all came down on the side of the angels with supporting Trump in 2015-2020.”

            Some of us might be slow, but not stupid 🙂

            1. Hey. I’ve been on this page since, what, 1992-ish? Perot and Ruby Ridge, at least…

              And I still didn’t quite wrap my head around the reality of the Uniparty and the Globalist thing until 2016, when both the Dems and the Republicans started tearing off the masks in response to Trump and making it obvious. I had an inkling, but I wasn’t grasping the full shape and scope of the damned thing.

              Talk about slow. 🙂

              I mean, who the hell knew that we’d have been getting better information on the reality of the world by listening to Alex Jones?

              What’s next? David Icke turns out to have been on the level all along? Roddy Piper was telling the absolute truth when he swore on his death bed that They Live! was a documentary?

              *snicker* Would any of us want to bet against either of those at this point?

                1. And, to tie in to our discussion on the other thread: that’s kind of why I say to give the Normies some time to play catch up, now that all of this has reached the “hard slap acrost the chops” stage of being revealed.

                  If someone like me, who was Red-pilled from late teens on, and who had their eyes open on this stuff from around ’90 or so, can state flatly that even after thirty years I just recently figured out how much and how deep all of the bullshit and corruption ran…

                  Just imagine what it’s like for Joe Normie who effectively just started getting slapped in the face with all of this stuff four or five years ago.

                  The Red Pill is a process, not an On/Off switch. 🙂

                  It takes time to figure out that everything your entire world view is based on is effectively bullshit even after taking the Red Pill, and even longer to accept that fact.

                  And some people just flat cannot do it.

                  1. I think you’re right. My wife used to think I was nuts politically. Her eyes were opened by Trump and she knows now that it is real bad.

                    Takes time.

                    1. Yeah, it do.

                      Heh. By the way: if anyone says anything to you about bailouts for the poor abused hedge funds after GameStoppers…

                      Tell ’em that you’ll fully support a single, one time, $600 Federal payment. 🙂

          3. I am just saying that I bought a whole lot of crap as a younger me and that at least I know better now to be as much suspicious of “Republicans” as I would any other group. Plus I bought that “Free Trade” Crap back then because the actual nuts and bolts of NAFTA were propagandized. It wasn’t “Free Trade”. True Free Trade I understand and still believe that is the best, but in actuality I have learned that outside of the US “Free” and “Fair” don’t mean anything and often mean the opposite. Even within the US those terms have lost meaning in actuality rather than in theoretical terms and books.

            I have found that as people age they learn to trust less and less and that is both a truism for all ages, but especially true for our circumstances in this day and age.

            1. I bought into Free Trade (Capitals intended) at the time, and I still didn’t buy into NAFTA.

              Partly from growing up in Texas and having a pretty good first hand experience of what free movement of goods and people – although I didn’t think of it in those terms growing up – from across the Mexican border did to both jobs and neighborhoods.

              And partly from both having been a gun nut from an early age and from knowing the media lies on the Vietnam war, I just didn’t believe the propaganda coming out of the media at the time.

              Plus, hey: if the Democrats were fer it, it jest couldn’t be a good thing. 🙂

              Agree with you that we all get less trusting as we get older and more experienced. I started out untrusting in a lot of areas, too, though.

  2. Nice winter morning here on Hatteras Island. 25mph winds with gusts and SNOW. Currently 34 degrees so no buildup but it’s quite interesting to see the snow coming down sideways in sheets 🙂

    1. It’s in the 60s down here today, and bright and sunny.

      Supposed to rain tomorrow and drop down into the 40s, but that’s tomorrow. I’m going to enjoy the nice weather out today.

  3. Regarding Ironbears idea that we don’t need a leader for economic (or other) warfare –

    Given the dustup in the market, a most welcome event, it proves Ironbear* correct. A bunch of little guys just said fuck you to the hedge fund managers and made them pay. I’d like to see another thousand cuts.
    Hedge funds must be in serious trouble today. No more thievery as when they target a company for short sales, the little guys will communicate and fight back. It’s glorious!

    *SteveF as well I think

    1. *grin* Glenn Reynold’s Army of Davids in action, eh? Isn’t it fucking glorious? My inner Kang is laughing his ass off right now at all of the consternation and wreckage.

      And… it’s John Ross’s idea: leaderless resistance. I stole it whole hog from his Unintended Consequences. Why I provided the link to the pdf.

      Credit where credit is due, and all that.

      1. Wall Street is often cyclical. In the early moments of a new Bull many people avoid Wall Street because for years the Bear had clawed so many that going into something else sounded like a better idea. AS the Bull slowly gets going some savvy, ambitious bright people see the Opportunity. That’s when the big money is made and the smart people make out big time.

        As success drives the Bull then Wall Street begins to attract the ne’er do wells. Still smart, still savvy, but ethically challenged and willing to go into the grey areas. Still, things are fine and there’s money to be made. Slowly the ne’er do wells keep coming in and often that second and third wave are increasingly unsavvy, lazy and just want to ride the Bull and do coke and stalk women. Soon enough the early entries start getting out, having made their FU money and unwilling to slide around amongst the Sleaze any more. We hit that point in the late 90’s.

        Nowadays Wall Street is filled with unimaginative sheeple who all short the same stocks and jump in to the same bubbles, only to get burned because they’re too lazy to do their homework and too distracted by booze, drugs, women and fast cars or other expensive toys.

        We are deep into that phase now. That is why Wall Street is crashing more and more and requiring increasing amounts of funny money to keep the game going. The ones there have spent more than they’ve made and still have debt payments on their cars and houses and toys and former wives who were trophy level once but past their sell by date. But they got good lawyers and took the jerks to the cleaners.

        I’m glad by happenstance I went out when I did. Pure luck, but then again, my gut was telling me something was wrong and so luck may have just been a good nose honed through experience, and something stank about it.

        Read about SPACs or “blind check” investment vehicles. I saw that last fall and I believe I commented here about them.

        Gamestop is just the latest in what will be the idiot’s comeuppance. See, the autists at Reddit or 4Chan or whatever are the smart savvy types who would have jumped into Wall Street when it was in disfavor. They saw a perfect setup and without any experience or training knew exactly how to engineer a perfect short squeeze of the “professionals” who never saw it coming.


        1. Something I noticed during the ’08-09 housing bubble/economic crash and the Obama years after it was that the Stocks and Bond markets were uncoupled from what the economy was visibly doing at ground level, and visibly got more so as the years went on.

          We saw a lot of that as well during the Trump years and especially the COVID mess where on one hand you’d be reading and hearing about jobs crashing and companies failing right and left, but the stock market would almost simultaneously be hitting record highs. No correlation between the two.

          1. Exactly right. There is so much money sloshing around looking for a home that underlying conditions have no meaning. Wherever the money flows that sector goes up. The money flows there at a whim and then it goes up because it went up.

            Tesla reported its first profit and has 0 models selling in the top 50 cars in sales and it’s worth more than Ford. Supposedly. But people swear it’ll be selling millions this year and next year be the largest car maker in the world.

            1. Interest rates at an effective zero means the money has to go somewhere else than in the bank. That leaves the old pair, stocks and real estate. Stocks are the easiest to rig, so the cash goes there. Until they can’t keep it rigged.

              1. A lot of time stock issuance will soar in a bubble so it’s always interesting to go searching the IPO data to see if it’s hitting record issuance.

                Which is why I picked on SPACs. Special Purpose Acquisition Companies.

                You give a Wall Street Guru a large check ahead of time via an IPO. Except the business is a Shell Company called a SPAC. The Wall Street Guru takes the Shell public and then has a certain amount of time to go look for a Private Company that wants to go public but doesn’t want all that rigamarole from the SEC that an actual IPO entails. So the SPAC, which is already a Public Company, buys the Private Company and all those pesky SEC rules get a workaround.

                So people give the Guru money without knowing what they will buy and the Guru looks for private companies that want a workaround from SEC regs. What could go wrong?

                Bubble sign.

              2. Real Estate supply is harder to expand. Stocks are now just created digitally.

                Like money and debt.

                1. Stocks and markets are based on speculation.

                  Jobs, companies, and real estate are based on real goods.

                2. There are also real estate investment trusts. I’m reading – “stay away”, but I haven’t a notion why just yet.

                  1. Yeah… there’s also Futures Trading in ag products. But that’s still speculation vs real goods.

                    Real goods: A farmer or rancher brings in a crop or rounds up his stock and sells it at the county stockyards or farmer’s market. What he has in his trucks is what he has to sell: he can’t sell more to the buyers than he actually has. If he doesn’t make enough from the sale to pay his bills and costs, then he has no profit.

                    Speculation: A Futures Commodities broker bets that next year (or next month or next quarter) that there will be X amount of pork produced in the US, and that it will be worth Y dollars per unit (higher), so he buys now at W amount and at Z dollars per unit (lower). If it comes in at X and the price goes up to Y, he makes money. If it comes in at G units and the price only goes up to T dollars, he loses money.

                    At no time does the commodities trader actually own any pork, unless he loses the bet badly, at which point he suddenly has a shitload of pork that he’s lost money on and he now has to sell at a loss.

                    Kind of like actual short selling as opposed to naked short selling, now that I think on it.

                    That’s a massive oversimplification of how the commodities markets work, but it’s sufficient for example.

                    I would imagine that real estate speculative markets work similarly?

                  2. REITs often buy property on heavy leverage or debt. This allows them in good times to pay yields of 6% or more. The property itself yields 4% but they buy 5x as much by borrowing 80% at 2%. So 20% earns 2% and 80% earns the 2% spread over the borrowings.

                    If prices fall in RE though that debt gets burdensome as the Lenders want more collateral.

  4. It’s a bit early yet, but I think we can all see the growing trends. I propose a name for 2021:

    I hereby nominate 2021 as “The Year that ALL of the masks came off.”

    We started seeing it in 2015-2016, with all of the Republican and “Right-wing” establishment reactions to Trump, and then more in the 2020 election cycle. But now they’re not even bothering to pretend. They’re just ripping the masks off Right and Left to reveal the lizard person underneath right out in the open in full view of everyone.

    It’s horrifying in a way, but it’s also fucking grand.

    Vindication at last for all of us “fringe dwelling nutcases” who’ve been screaming about this shit since 1992. 🙂

  5. Heh:

    Comment from the Occluded Cortex:

    I am happy to work with Republicans on this issue where there’s common ground, but you almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago so you can sit this one out.

    Cruz tried to have AOC murdered, you say?

    Inexplicably, Ted Cruz’s popularity rating skyrocketed over 300% overnight among likely voters. 🙂

    1. Enh, you get lots of leaders in a leaderless resistance – but most of them are leading by example.

      Take the GameStoppers for example: now that they’ve done this and proven it successful, someone else is going to be looking for similar opportunities. Or looking for ways to extend the action to a different field. And when they find it and act, it inspires someone else to do something.

      Something I noticed a long time ago in disaster recovery and in emergencies: a lot of times, “leadership” is just someone stepping up to take an action and do something useful and constructive. Then other people see it, and start doing things, whether it’s getting together to clear a downed tree, or start taking meals out to someone who’s working. Then someone else pitches in.

      And a lot of times, it starts with one person saying, “I’m going to do this“, and doing it.

      In situation like this where resistance is going to be painted as illegal and insurrection, all that a leader designating targets is going to get you is your leader being arrested and hammered down, along with anyone who takes his advice being targeted.

      Pick your own damn’ targets and act.

      That’s a big part of the problem: not many people are self starters, and no one wants to be the first to act.

      Get over it.

        1. *nod*

          A good example of leaderless resistance on a large scale is the 2nd Amendment Sanctuary Movement.

          Now, I’ve been following this for a number of years, so I’m kinda familiar with the history. This is going to be a massive oversimplification of the events, but bear with me…

          What happened there is that way back in the B.T. Era (Before Trump), some county Sheriff out west in Wyoming or Montana looked at the latest anti-gun rumbles coming from the Obama White House and said, “I’ve decided that we’re not going to enforce any Federal firearms laws in my county nor cooperate with Federal LEOS to enforce unconstitutional laws on my citizens, and the county commissioners agree with me.”

          That was effectively the start of the Sheriff’s First Movement: That a county sheriff is the highest valid law enforcement in a state. No authority exceeds his, not even the Federal LEOS.

          A few other counties across the U.S. followed his example, and it got both approving and disapproving write ups in national news here and there, and that was about the extent of it. Our previous sheriff out here in Bryan County was a Sheriff’s First member.

          Fast forwards to the P.T. Era (Post Trump), and Governor Coonman Northam and the raft of potential and actual antigun and gun confiscation orders coming out of his office and the Virginia Lege.

          I don’t know for certain, but I’d almost bet that someone in that state remembered the previous 2A sanctuaries and some sheriff said, “Hey! I have an idea!” and that led to him declaring his county a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary and saying, “No. I’m not enforcing that.”

          And then a couple of other sheriff’s nodded and said, “Great idea, lets run with it.” And then a few more… and the next thing, something like 90% of the counties in Virginia had declared themselves 2A Sanctuaries.

          And thus the Second Amendment Sanctuary Movement was born, and it grew.

          And the sheriff’s in several other states like Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado looked at that and said, “Hey! Wait up – us too!” and more counties became 2A Sanctuaries.

          Fast forward a bit more to Biden’s usurpership, and Governor Abbot of Texas declared Texas – the entire state – a 2A Sanctuary State, and one of our state senators here in Oklahoma said, “Good idea, I’m in!” and introduced a resolution to declare Oklahoma a 2A Sanctuary State.

          Now, note that at NO time was there EVER a national leader who stood us and said, “Okay, guys: here’s what we’re gonna do. You, you, and you declare your areas 2A Sanctuaries, and the rest of you follow after we see the effect.”

          No national or even regional leader ever ordered Governor Abbot to declare Texas a part of the 2A Sanctuary movement. Nor did anyone ever order or coordinate any of the county Sheriff’s to do so, all the way down the chain going back to that first Sheriff, whoever he was.

          1. OK, understood. I think our difference is not so great as I’m not suggesting we need a dictatorial leader as much as someone or several someones that keep the right focused in order to maximize our impact. If everybody just does the same thing then obviously one is not needed, RE the 2nd amendment sanctuary movement. Or, Bed, bath, and beyond, which is tanking because they dropped Lindell’s pillows.

            I’d like a list of economic targets that we all use. That’s about all we need.

            1. That could be doable. Advisable might be a different thing.

              Just remember: once you make the list and post it somewhere – because hey, if it’s not out there in the wild to be seen, what good’s the list? – then you become a target, and so does anyone who works off of your list.

              As a very wise man once said, “Let’s don’t get caught, shall we?”

                1. I discovered that if I pretend that all of the townspeople are Democrats when I watch that, then the Russians are the good guys.

                    1. What a world, what a world, indeed.

                      Hey. I said I believed in the magic in a young girl’s heart.

                      Then they arrested me for cutting one out and eating it.

                    2. Aztec culture is as valid as anyone else’s!

                      Legalize Human Sacrifices! It’s for the Children!!

            2. I know I’ve posted it before, but it can’t get enough exposure in my opinion. Especially in these times:

              Unintended Consequences by John Ross

              It’s gotten to be an unofficial manual in the gun community for when the hit shits the fan. Army of Davids and all that.

              Further reading, and for a slightly different take on the theme:
              The Bonner Incident (2 book series) by Thomas A Watson and Michael L Rider

              For people like me who don’t like or use Kindle, they’re also available on Library Genesis.

              1. I read the Ross book years ago, but thinks for the link. I’ll read it once again (actually I got it the other day but failed to thank you).

                I’ll check the other one out as well.

                1. Cool. The Bonner Incident stories are pretty good tales.

                  Watson can be a bit inconsistent, but those two are good reads.

                  I really need to look up his web site and see if I can slide him a few bucks via PayPal or something.

    1. Yea, I read that and thought – Pull in the rugs and batten down the hatches as a bad storm is headed our way.

    2. Stocks have reached a permanently High Plateau.

      One of the market pundit writers uttered those famous words around Summer 1929.

      Yellen isn’t smart enough to tie that man’s shoes.

      What she just uttered is the scariest thing I’ve heard since 0 said he was going to cut our healthcare insurance by $2500.

  6. The cities are dying, accelerated by the effort to corruptly remove Trump from office. Democrat led destruction has been slowly eroding the city but 2020 saw a spike driven through the heart. 2021 will see a continuing and irreversible exit of the city population.

    1. The funniest part is that people in the Big Cities like New York swallow the propaganda Whole from CNN and MSNBC and Fredo Cuomo and his Brother Pol Pot without even bothering to chew on it.

      Which means they were scared shitless this past year and are now abandoning ship in droves, never to come back. Making it almost doubly impossible to ever get NYC back to where it was under Wilhelm’s first years as Mayor, never mind getting back it’s Mojo from the Giuliani Years or even the Bloomberg Tyranny.

      So they took NYC out on Fifth Avenue and shot it in front of the World and now think everything will Return to Normalcy.

      Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! 🤣😂😆😝😜😈👺

      1. Yep. I wonder, what were they thinking? Are they capable of thinking?
        Did they do this on purpose, destroy the city(s)?

        People are out crawling over every piece of available land located outside the big cities. They are buying lots and acreage, in addition to buying already existing houses. It’s truly a sellers market right now in the real estate business, at least in my area and here on the coast.

        1. I would swear Wilhelm is trying to destroy NYC.

          It just takes a moderate amount of reasonableness while still hewing to the Left of Center line to keep NYC doing well because Wall Street still props the budget up with lots of tax revenues. Add Tourism in and NYC had one of the best financial and crime stats numbers out of most US Cities.

          Now Wilhelm destroyed tourism, restaurants and culture, and Wall Street is under attack (and frankly the brightest finance wizards aren’t in NYC proper anymore). Crime us up and quality of life down and the finances going to shit.

          Yep, I think Wilhelm likes to destroy NYC.

          1. It’s reasonable to ask what they would do different…

            I think that mob owned corrupt marxist Cuomo purposely sent sick people to the nursing home to spread the disease, creating panic and killing off old and expensive to the state people at the same time.

          2. I would swear Wilhelm is trying to destroy NYC.

            “Destroy NYC…”

            Now I’m trying to figure out if there’s supposed to be a hidden downside in that somewhere that I’m just not seeing.

              1. Ooh, that’s a good point.
                We really do need walls around those cities with one way doors.

                1. I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

              2. Also, they might wrangle bailouts from the rest of us.

                When the Big Banks failed who’d they come looking for?

  7. First world problems…

    So, what have we learned this year so far, kids?

    Since January the 6th…

    We’ve learned that our politicians are more corrupt and less transparent than Mexico’s.

    We’re learned that both our government and our media are more totalitarian than Communist China’s.

    We’ve learned that some of our “Republicans” are more perverted than the Democrats – which takes some doing.

    We’ve learned that our beloved leaders really hate it when the peasants get uppity.

    And we’ve learned that the U.S. military has less integrity than Burma’s.

    We’ve learned that our hoboes have more balls than our Oath Keepers.

    And Today I learned that porch pirates can actually steal your porch!

    It’s depressing that there’s actual Banana Republics out there looking at us and saying, “Dude. You really need to dial it back a bit.”

  8. My commies went *SPLAT* on the ocean…
    My commies went *SPLAT* on the sea…
    Don’t bring back…
    Don’t bring back…
    Don’t bring back my commies to me!

    – Seen on the internet

    Pinochet Airlines. One way tickets at rock bottom prices!

  9. Am I the only one thinking that the whole masking COVIDiocy just has to be the result of drunken bar bets?

    “I bet I can make everyone wear TWO masks.”

    “Three masks, no, wait, four! Yeah, four.”

    “Four masks? That’s nothing. I bet I can get the entire country to wear their underwear on their heads.”

    I know, I know — don’t give them any ideas.

    1. Heh. Does look like that, huh?

      You been watching the COVID tracking numbers and graphs over at Worldometer lately? Notice that the cases and death numbers have starting dropping from their recent peaks? Unexpectedly!

      Why, it’s almost like they’ve decided to deescalate their inflation of both sets of numbers now that Biden is Pretender-Elect.

      But that’s just silly talk!

      1. Yep. The WHO issued new guidelines for the PCR cycle threshold within hours of Team Biden taking over, so the casedemic could be “successfully” ended. Undo the monetary incentives to make every death a COVID death and the supposed fatalities will drop like a rock as well. They have even reversed the whole “hydroxychloroquine is instant death!” stance, so I am expecting this ‘miracle cure’ to re-emerge sometime soon as an official treatment.

        All just a series of coincidences, I am certain.

        1. Man, that biden fellow is the real cure, ain’t he?

          Should we be calling him St. Biden?

          Wait, I know. It’s his wife, right? She’s a doctor.

          1. Herr Docktor Jill Biden! I neither know nor care what the German feminine form of Herr is.

            Have you noticed something really telling?

            Go look at the graph and numbers for COVID deaths at Worldometer, and compare the spikes and lows to a calendar.

            You’ll quickly notice (or maybe slowly, depending on your levels of math and statistical comprehension) that deaths peak on Tuesday and Wednesday, drop slightly on Thursday, continue to fall off on Friday, hit a trough and bottom out on Saturday and Sunday, and then begin to climb slightly on Monday before suddenly spiking again on Tuesday and Wednesday. Then the pattern repeats.

            Consistently, all the way back to April 21st of 2020.

            Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

            Casually remarking, “My, it certainly is odd how people only die from Corona on Tuesday and Wednesday. Apparently COVID doesn’t kill people on the weekend,” is a guaranteed conversation stopper out here in my end of the woods. Every time.

            Followed by an uncomfortable pause, and then a change of subjects.

            It’s as though people out here* are embarrassed and uncomfortable about you noticing that and actually mentioning it out loud. Like, they don’t really believe the bullshit, but you’re not supposed to call it out as bullshit publicly or something.

            * Exceptions, always. I pointed that out to my nurse-practitioner, and she actually pulled up Worldometer and started looking at it, and after several minutes went, “Wow. That’s a really odd distribution curve. How come I never noticed that before?”

            She actually knows enough statistics to realize that there’s no way you can get a natural or useful graph from numbers like that.

            1. On this one there is a legitimate answer. Reporting.
              The numbers are as they get reported. The reporters are not working the weekend, so you get a bunch of reports at the first of the week then it tapers off. This is always the case.

              1. I know this, Barry.

                It doesn’t change the fact that you can’t draw useful statistical analysis from numbers reported like that.

                Worldometer’s graphs are fucking useless for any practical purpose because of that. They might as well just post John Wilder’s bikini graphs: they’d be just as informative, and a lot more fun to look at.

                The numbers are bogus. The graphs are bogus. That they do a data dump on Tuesday and Wednesday and create “alarming” spikes that way doesn’t reduce the bogosity in any fashion.

                1. Sure, the numbers are bogus. It’s just not the daily totals that make it so. Other people have noticed that and didn’t realize there was a delay in the numbers getting reported.

                  1. The delay makes the pretty graph useless for drawing any useful inferences from.

                    Also, “the reporters are not working the weekend” doesn’t account for Monday, Thursday, and Friday so there’s something hinky beyond just that.

                    Or are Monday, Thursday, and Friday a part of the weekend in your world?

                    1. “You’ll quickly notice (or maybe slowly, depending on your levels of math and statistical comprehension) that deaths peak on Tuesday and Wednesday, drop slightly on Thursday, continue to fall off on Friday, hit a trough and bottom out on Saturday and Sunday, and then begin to climb slightly on Monday before suddenly spiking again on Tuesday and Wednesday. Then the pattern repeats.”

                      That is the statement I responded to.

                      That is what I have seen, even going back to deaths before the chinavirus. I believe it was the state level recording that I looked at months ago.

    2. I’ve spotted actual people wearing the two masks now.

      You can get people to put pencils in their ears sharp end first if you got an “expert” to recommend it. Especially young adults. Most gullible generation ever. How did parents raise children like that?

      1. How did parents raise children like that?

        Not telling them ‘No!’ nearly often enough.

        Worrying too much about their precious self-esteem and too little about their ability to think critically.

        Sending them to the public schools for indoctrination rather than educating them.

        The list is long, sadly.

        1. So the parents hated their own parents and had Daddy and/or Mommy issues themselves. Gotcha!

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