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Mask, off

One of them finally said it, so Correia runs the numbers in response, and it’s truly a thing of beauty.

Last week a congressman embarrassed himself on Twitter. He got into a debate about gun control, suggested a mandatory buyback—which is basically confiscation with a happy face sticker on it—and when someone told him that they would resist, he said resistance was futile because the government has nukes.

And everybody was like, wait, what?

Of course the congressman is now saying that using nuclear weapons on American gun owners was an exaggeration, he just wanted to rhetorically demonstrate that the all-powerful government could crush us peasants like bugs, they hold our pathetic lives in their iron hand, and he’d never ever advocate for the use of nuclear weapons on American soil (that would be bad for the environment!), and instead he merely wants to send a SWAT team to your house to shoot you in the face if you don’t comply.

See? That’s way better.

We are so divided it’s like we are speaking two different languages. Hell, on this topic we are on two different planets. And it is usually framed with a sanctimonious left versus right, enlightened being versus racist hillbilly, unfailing arrow of history versus the knuckle dragging past sort of vibe.

But basically it boils down to one side making the argument: The idea of the 2nd Amendment resisting a tyrannical government is obsolete, because the federal government is too overwhelmingly powerful, and has too many advanced technologies.    

Which, especially in light of Kill ‘Em All Swalwell’s oops-did-I-say-that threat to nuke 2A-supporting Americans, pretty neatly provides confirmation of everything we’ve been saying all along. But never mind that right now, on to the really good stuff.

First, let’s talk about the basic premise that an irregular force primarily armed with rifles would be helpless against a powerful army that has things like drones and attack helicopters.

This is a deeply ironic argument to make, considering that the most technologically advanced military coalition in history has spent the better part of the last two decades fighting goat herders with AKs in Afghanistan and Iraq. Seriously, it’s like you guys only pay attention to American casualties when there’s a republican in office and an election coming up.

Nobel Peace Prize Winner Barack Obama launched over five hundred drone strikes during his eight years in office. We’ve used Apaches (that’s the scary looking helicopter in the picture for my peacenik liberal friends), smart bombs, tanks, I don’t know how many thousands of raids on houses and compounds, all the stuff that the lefty memes say they’re willing to do to crush the gun nut right, and we’ve spent something like 6 trillion dollars on the global war on terror so far.

And yet they’re still fighting.

Okay, so let’s say Congressman Swalwell gets his wish, and the government says turn them in or else. And even though the government has become tyrannical enough to send SWAT teams door to door and threaten citizens with drones and attack helicopters, rather than half the states saying fuck you, this means Civil War 2, instead we’ll stick to the rosiest of all possible outcomes, and say that most gun owners comply.

In fact, let’s be super kind. Rather than a realistic number, like half or a third of those people getting really, really pissed off and hoisting the black flag, let’s say that 99% of them decide to totally put all their faith into the government, and that the all-powerful entity which just threatened to kill their entire family will never ever turn tyrannical from now on, pinky swear, so what do they have to lose? And a whopping 90% of gun owners go along peacefully.

That means you are only dealing with six and a half MILLION insurgents. The entire active US military is about 1.3 million, with about 800,000 reserve. Which is also assuming that those two Venn diagrams don’t overlap, which is just plain idiotic, but I’ll get to that too.

Let’s be super generous. I’m talking absurdly generous, and say that a full 99% of US gun owners say won’t somebody think of the children and all hold hands and sing kumbaya, so that then you are only dealing with the angriest, listless malcontents who hate progress…  These are those crazy, knuckle dragging bastards who you will have to put in the ground.

And there are 650,000 of them.

To put that into perspective, we were fighting 22,000 insurgents in Iraq, a country which would fit comfortably inside Texas with plenty of room to spare. This would be almost 30 times as many fighters, spread across 22 times the area.

And that estimated number is pathetically, laughably low.

In one of the bluest states in America, the New York SAFE Act only has like a 4% compliance rate. And that’s mostly just people choosing to ignore an onerous law. Because the further you get away from the major cities, the more people just don’t give a crap about your utopian foolishness. Its benign neglect, and most Americans are happy to ignore you until you mess with them. You start dropping Hellfire missiles on Indiana? Fuck you, its game on. And that 1% is going to turn into 50% damn quick.

So just by the numbers, it’s an insurmountable problem, but we’re just getting started with how stupid this idea is.

And, incredible as it seems considering the level of stupidity already dispersed and put to rout here, Larry’s right—he is just getting started. Really, though, this bit is what it mostly boils down to:

In something that I find profoundly troubling, when I’ve had this discussion before, I’ve had a Caring Liberal tell me that the example of Iraq doesn’t apply, because “we kept the gloves on”, whereas fighting America’s gun nuts would be a righteous total war with nothing held back… Holy shit, I’ve got to wonder about the mentality of people who demand rigorous ROEs to prevent civilian casualties in a foreign country, are blood thirsty enough to carpet bomb Texas.

You really hate us, and then act confused why we want to keep our guns? But I don’t think unrelenting total war against everyone who has ever disagreed with you on Facebook is going to be quite as clean as you expect.

Probably not, no. It certainly shouldn’t be, anyway.

But that’s what we’re dealing with here, isn’t it? It’s a completely child-like, petulant, spiteful outlook, one wholly divorced from anything resembling reason or reality; it wants what it wants, because reasons, and it expects to get it toot fucking sweet, too. Or else.

Believe it or not, Larry has plenty more yet, and it’s…well, it’s reassuring, is what it is—more so than anything I’ve come across since Black Tuesday, in fact. Disastrous and dark a portent as the midterms were, some small hope still remains to us, a hope tightly interwoven with America’s gun culture and its 2A devotees. Which, I can’t think of anything more fitting, more right, than that. Conclusion:1““““““““““““““““““““““““““““““1

To pull off confiscation now you’d have to be willing to kill millions of people. The congressman’s suggestion was incredibly stupid, but it was nice to see one of you guys being honest about it for once.  In order to maybe, hypothetically save thousands, you’d be willing to slaughter millions. Either you really suck at math, or the ugly truth is that you just hate the other side so much that you think killing millions of people is worth it to make them fall in line. And if that’s the case, you’re a sick bastard, and a great example of why the rest of us aren’t ever going to give up our guns.

No reason it can’t be both there, Larry. But it ain’t just math they suck at; as I always say, it’s reality that’s always been their biggest problem.

(Via WRSA)

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12 thoughts on “Mask, off

  1. They act like those left in the Nuked Fly Over country would not pick out the best bits of food grown there to feed themselves and send ALL the stuff that goes ‘Clickety click’ into the cities ….

    Do those Soy Latte’ sippers not know that the Soy Beans their Soy milk is made of have already been pissed on – before leaving the farm!

  2. A lot of American liberals might be retarded enough to not understand the numbers (including this POS Swalwell), but I guarantee that people who can actually do math understand that mass forced gun confiscation is not going to go their way. More proof that liberals are delusional as hell, as if we needed more.

  3. What the esteemed Congress critter forgets is food, fuel, and electricity all originate outside Democratic strongholds; the cities. Shut down the electricity and the cities become third world slums in a few weeks. A 100 people with hacksaws and torches could bring down any major city.

  4. So according to this little Hitler if you don’t turn in your gun for some useless Gun Buy Back you’ll get your home nuked sounds to me like Extortion/Blackmail and that’s federal Crime this bottom dwelling muck sucker belongs in Prison for the rest of his life and fed on Bread and Water

    1. And I have no doubt that “Law Enforcement” and the “Legal” system will promptly charge, arrest, prosecute, convict, and punish him appropriately. Don’t you agree?

      And if they don’t, then what?

      Do you know where they live in your neighborhood? Or do you think they are “good cops”???

  5. I love the article. But I think it’s WILDLY optimistic. As Mark Matis mentions above, I don’t count on a single cop to ‘turn’ to our side, even if they own 100 guns for their own use. The reason is simple. Charlottesville, where cops forced two sides together to provoke violence. Tucker Carlson’s residence where a cop watched a piece of shit vandalize Carlson’s driveway by spray painting it and not one arrest was made. Ferguson, where nary a single cop spoke out in support of Darren Wilson. Portland, where they have ceded the streets to Antifa and are more than happy to watch as the Republican campaign HQ is smashed. Want more examples?

    The fact is that today’s Affirmative Action-led, politically driven police departments in nearly any city bigger than 50,000 will be more than delighted to attack and shoot law abiding gun owners should they resist their authority in any way. And I HATE saying that. HATE it. Still, it’s the truth.

    Add to that over 80 Federal agencies who have agents that carry firearms. All of those are order-following government functionaries. They’ll be on the side of the cops.

    The military is different; I could see perhaps 50% flipping in a SHTF moment. But no more than that. The military also has become politicized and liberalized.

    Small town sheriffs? Sure, they’d be on our side, but again, any city over 50K, we’ll be fighting the cops, the Feds, and over 50% of the military. We’re gonna have to have our shit together.

  6. I’m going to have to side with Skeptic on this one.

    How many people have already had their firearms confiscated under “red flag” laws that have been in place for only a year or two?

    And what has Correia done about it?

    What has anyone done about it?

    What is there TO do about it … except wait your turn, and decide, groggily, some fine random 4 a.m., whether you’ll be disarmed or whether you’ll join Gary Willis.

    Maybe we should e-mail our congressmen.

    In the next few years, I think we discover that the so-called “Three Percent” is, at best, the 0.3% and probably more like the 0.03%.

    Even supposing a full 3%, we’re talking about 9 million people. Nationwide, police made 10 million arrests last year. Granted, those arrests don’t usually involve someone shooting back; but, then, neither will most confiscations. And the confiscations don’t need to be completed in a year, or even ten. They have all the time in the world. For them, slow and steady wins the race … and, … something about omelettes.

    1. Once again I ask:

      Do you know where they live in your neighborhood?
      Do you know their schedules?
      Do you know their spouses’ schedules?
      Do you have a plan to deal with them appropriately?

      Things will change when the “Law Enforcement” dinner table conversation is about the appropriateness of continuing a career in “Law Enforcement”. Not before then. Or do you REALLY think this shit will continue when pig sties across the country don’t even have enough resources to
      “protect” the donuts in their headquarters break room???

      1. I think that what you suggest will never happen.

        When your neighbor, or someone on the other side of whatever state you live in, is shot dead refusing confiscation; you would have me believe that you will go hunting. And, not only that; but that many people will join you in that hunt. Sorry, but no one will.

        Some small percentage may be willing to defend their rights with their lives. Most won’t. But NOBODY is going to put their lives, fortunes, or “sacred honor” on the line to defend someone ELSE’s right, … Niemoller be damned.

        Hundreds of confiscations have already taken place. Go get ’em, cowboy. Maybe Correia will join you.

        Big talk is just that …. talk. Talk from people pretending that this is some future, potentially avoidable, hypothetical situation, while remaining willfully blind to the fact that it is IN PROGRESS … Today, … Yesterday.

  7. An interesting thing about heavy handedness in guerrilla warfare is that you often end up making more enemies via ‘collateral damage’. And you just know there is more than one Capt. Red Legs (who was heard to utter, “There ain’t no end to doin’ good.”) type on the left.

  8. Although I generally despise these sort of things it may be time for another “Million Man March”. Imagine the vision of a million 2A enthusiasts marching up to the Capitol demonstrating their dedication to the principle of open carry. Perhaps we could persuade Mr. Swelledhead to come out to the steps and personally address his concerns, although one suspects he will more likely be found slinking out the back with fecal matter draining down his thighs. If nothing else, it would serve as a reality check for those in law enforcement who find an armed citizenry problematic and who might be inclined to support this type of nonsense. A live update of just what they would be facing if the Dimms put them in this jackpot would provide a useful expansion of consciousness for them.
    While we are there perhaps we could venture up those steps and inside and collect a few items to add to the holiday decorations on the streetlights of Pennsylvania Ave. I will leave it to your imagination exactly who … or perhaps I should say what, those decorations should be.
    I have no idea if my slightly comedic piece of violent rhapsodizing will even post, since I am sure there are many who saw no problem with Congresscritter Swelledhead threatening to nuke the heartland who will see this bit of fluff as an unbelievable breach of civility and demand that I be jailed for inciting to riot, sedition, and treason.

  9. One can understand the logic of left wingnuts because based on their experience this sounds great. But they also believe Hollywood movies showing women beating up hordes of angry white males. After all if you spent your life avoiding military service, how accurate is your understanding of what the military can and cannot do. If your life has been spent in the faculty lounge or organizing welfare rats, can you understand what motivates people who do not wish to depend on the government, do not trust it, and view the government as a threat to their freedom and liberty.

    How many of these progressives have ever been to a war zone or hefted a rifle? Their only experience in “war” is beating up on old men who are outnumbered 10 to 1, or accosting some man and his wife in a restaurant.

    So there come a day when grievances are settled. And you do not know the fury of a patient man who has sat through the lectures of toxic masculinity, the glories of diversity or the evils of being white.

    And we are all aware of the boldness, valor, and how formidable a foe is, who requires safe zones, support animals, and speech codes to survive a terrifying day of sociology.

    So bring it on. There comes a day in every civilization when it is time to hoist the black flag and cleanse itself of the parasites, mutants, deviants, and cripples of the emotional, mental, and character.

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