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The New Whig Party

Hate to sound like a broken record here of late, but: I’m with Jeff.

You know what? Screw it. Let the Trent Lotts and the John McCains and the Mitch McConnells — and the big business interests they represent — have the damn thing.

We’re never going to remove the entrenched GOP leadership class intent on bullying and breaking conservatives. They have too much money and too much power and organization. And it should be clear by now that they are more willing to fight conservatives than to take on progressives — largely because they share the same big government sentiments as their putative political enemies, and because they have an equal interest in a liberal fascist state whereby politicians and big business collude to their mutual financial benefit.

As I’ve been saying for quite some time now, it is not Democrats vs GOP. It is the entrenched ruling class vs the rest of us — and to that class, Party affiliation is largely only a matter of preferential seating arrangements around the trough.

The establishment GOP is feckless and, in an important ideological sense, corrupt to its core. It’s time it went the way of the Whigs.

At this point, the odds of my voting Republican Statist again are roughly equivalent to those that I’ll vote Democrat Socialist. I can make no meaningful distinction between the two; they’re both dishonest, corrupt, and inimical to the interests of the real America out there–which, despite the best efforts of both parties, still exists, if only as small pockets of both active and more or less passive resistance. Both of these vile criminal enterprises are part of the problem, not the solution.

Update! More:

If we can’t get a conservative nominee for President because the Party won’t ever support one, and the GOP establishment is willing to work harder to defeat conservative primary challengers to incumbent Republicans moderates than it is to attack President Obama on his record, what’s left for us?

Is our Party forever to be the Party of McCain and McConnell, Romney and Lugar,  Boehner and Graham?

If so, why should we be expected to support it?

Now, what’s that old saying about doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result? Because too many of us seem to have forgotten it.

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24 thoughts on “The New Whig Party

  1. As I’ve been saying for quite some time now, it is not Democrats vs GOP. It is the entrenched ruling class vs the rest of us — and to that class, Party affiliation is largely only a matter of preferential seating arrangements around the trough.

    And you need look no further than the examples of Jim Jeffords, Arlen Specter, and Lisa Murkowski to see the truth of that. They’ll do anything to keep their positions around the trough. There’s no other place in the world where they can get that combination of goodies: obsequious “respect”, people to wait on them hand and foot, chauffered transportation, big bucks now plus daily expenses paid and a ridiculously generous retirement plan, and the fantasy that they’re important, irreplaceable people with their hands on the levers that guide all of society.

    They’re never going to give it up. If they *ever* had principles about limited government, they’ve long since jettisoned them with various rationalizations about how the whole world would go to hell without their benign and brilliant guidance, so they have to use any means necessary to stay in power.

    I loathe such people. For their arrogance, their ignorance, their demeanor contrary to the culture of this country since its founding, their inflated, obnoxious sense of self-importance, and the completely abandonment of any semblance of principle.

    So they will not get my vote, my money, or my tacit support. They will get only contempt from me. I guess it’s Gary Johnson this time around. But if a viable limited-government third party to replace the GOP comes along, I’ll be an early and enthusiastic supporter.

  2. Amen, Billy. It’s been a long, strange trip indeed from “statesman” to “professional politician”–from George Washington to, say, Barney Frank, or any of the Founders at all to *shudder* Maxine Waters, and the direction was straight down. Continuing to vote for venal swine as the lesser of two evils hasn’t worked yet, and there’s no reason to expect it ever will. Sooner or later, we have to look at reality, step back, and try to make a change; not “next time” but now. Either that, or resign ourselves to going right on seeing venal swine sworn in time and time again, and thinking somehow things will get better on their own. They won’t. We all ought to have seen enough evidence by now to know it.

  3. Then why no Ron Paul support?
    He WILL take an axe to the beast that is the beltway.
    Is there ANYTHING more important at this point?
    If the USA falls, it will replicate the fall of rome, centuries of darkness. In these times of high technology this may well mean the end of human kind in THE NEAR FUTURE.
    WE may well die off as a species without ever leaving the nest, still-born as it were.

  4. The issue of Ron Paul isn’t quite that simple. Yes, he has a good grasp on our problems in reining in the federal government. But he’s a head-in-the-sand isolationist, and that is a serious vulnerability in an age of terrorism, potentially nuclear terrorism. The isolationist “stop them at the coast” defense mentality of today’s capital-L Libertarians is the main reason I left the Libertarian Party.

    Plus, Paul has simply been typecast as the wacky uncle (partially because of those head-in-the-sand isolationist stances) and it’s past the time that he can realistically expect to make a major impact. That’s just the way it is, whether it’s fair or not, or whether we like it or not. Perhaps he just came along too early. Perhaps his son will be able to start the fire, or someone like Ron Johnson or Mike Lee.

    I wrote about Paul about four years ago. It’s instructive to look at the update at the bottom of that post, which said:

    Well, I’m happy that a lot of Ron Paul supporters showed up to comment, but very few seemed to actually read the post. Most seemed to be here just to post an affirmation of how much they believe in Ron Paul, and try to get others excited about him too. That’s OK, I guess, but it doesn’t answer my main question.

    This seems to be a hallmark of Paul supporters. They tend to take a simplistic, rah-rah approach to promoting him and his positions. That’s their right, of course, but as a result I don’t think he has the cadre of people that could ever actually make him a transformational figure. His supporters have quite an impressive ability to turn off other people even when they think they’re promoting Paul.

  5. Stephen, if a single Supreme Court justice is the margin of survival, then it’s already over.

    And I might note that a GOP president is no assurance that we won’t get someone just as bad. See Souter, David, appointed by — wait for it — the elder George Bush. Who probably is more like Romney than any recent president.

  6. Yeah, that’s great-fact is we are 1 SC Justice away from our Constitution becoming totally inconsequential. So fuck it, instead of working with what we have, which pisses the everloving crap out of me, let’s just catch the first waaaahbulance home.

    We can have a nice front row seat in front of our TV when Scalia or Thomas have an unexpected accident and Obama sticks another fucking dyke in there-yeah that sounds like a plan to me. Short of an armed rebellion, let’s make it IMPOSSIBLE to step back from the brink.

    Or. We can get behind the 1/2 dozen or so Republicans running for the Senate that are Constitutional conservatives. We can get more Tea Party conservatives elected in the House. It took a 100 years for this REgressive garbage to reach critical mass and you expect a temper tantrum will make all the bad people go away??

    And while we’re at it, vote for the lesser of 2 evils-again. He sure as hell isn’t going to stick a Kagan on the court. I believe another Souter would be impossible-see Meyers for how closely we are watching who gets picked from our side.

  7. MM, I don’t want to be insulting about this, especially to a person who also understands the dangers of our current situation, but I have to ask – how does it feel to be jerked around by the Gentry GOP like a puppet on a string?

    Because they have figured something out: they can get a substantial portion of limited government types to line up and vote for them for nothing more than the threat of a leftist Supreme Court justice if the other side wins. That’s your price. That’s all they have to pay to get your vote. So that’s all they are going to pay.

    We saw the exact same dynamic with Bush v. Gore. And we got Bush, plus the biggest majority of GOP in the House and Senate in my lifetime. What did they do with it? Federalized education, higher spending increases than Clinton, and a brand new leftist social welfare program to speed our financial meltdown right along. Plus, we almost got Harriett Myers, who would have basically been a Souter in a dress. (I notice that you had nothing to say about Bush’s dad giving us Souter, by the way.)

    Bush took those votes from limited government types to win, as did a lot of Gentry GOP congressmen and senators, and then did what they damn well pleased, which was to grow government. Grow it to the point of meltdown, and then build up another layer on the debt mountain to stave off collapse until they were no longer responsible.

    So here we have the latest offering by the Gentry GOP, Romney. Who is just peachy with growing government, as he proved as governor of Massachusetts. And, again, you and millions of others are willing to sell your vote cheaply by the threat of changing the balance on the Supreme Court.

    Sorry, but no sale for me. I realize that, if the meltdown comes, the Supreme Court will not stop the power grabs by authoritarian types, no matter what its composition. That was pretty much proven by FDR, and the Supreme Court has been in slow retreat from constitutional principles ever since, interrupted by a few holding actions. No significant reversals on the economic front. By any rational reading of the Constitution, most of the what the federal government does *today* is unconstitutional. And you’re willing to sell your vote for fear that we might move down the same road a bit faster if the Gentry GOP loses?

    Sorry, I think you’re just being manipulated by professional politicians and their lackeys. You don’t need to be worried about supporting them. You need to be thinking about and working for Lugar’s opponent Mourdock, and that Tea Party opponent of Hatch in Utah, Liljenquist. Oh, and that lady congressional candidate in Utah, Mia Love. If enough of those committed limited government types are elected, and the GOP takes back the Senate as I think likely, then that also offers some protection against bad Supreme Court justics, but more importantly, it paves the way for a critical mass of such people that’s needed to actually change course.

    Those people might transform the GOP (unlikely), or might serve as the core of a new party that is an honest attempt to reverse the cancerous growth of government. Or, of course, they might fail miserably. But at least they have a chance of reversing course. The chances that the Gentry GOP will reverse the course of higher spending and debt can be calculated with a high degree of precision – zero.

  8. In this battle, I am engaged. No one has to tell me we need more Constitutional conservatives in Congress and that the Republican establishment is fighting that harder than are the REgressives. I worked my butt off for Ken Buck in 2010 when he was all but ignored by the NRSC. I sent cash to West, Angle and McDonnell. I donated cash to Palin and was prepared to put my life on hold and work my ass off for her. I went down to Florida this year after Newt won SC and worked in his campaign only to see him implode while Romney spent millions bashing him. When I lived in CO-7, Perlmutter’s office got to the point they would just put me on hold and I went to the mat trying to get Brain Frazier elected.

    You’ll note all of these actions and more are within the Republican Party. Don’t you believe there are millions of dems disgusted with the likes of Sharpton et.al. but would never consider voting Republican or third party? Why didn’t we ever hear from Hillary supporters that they were going to sit it out after Obama literally thugged his way to the nomination? You know as well as me that their paramount concern was getting him elected.

    So maybe we’ll get another Republican that famously decides to approach the cliff in low gear tapping the brake. It’s just gonna have to do until we can tip it the direction we all want. In the meantime, do you think a meltdown is going to suddenly convince those same dem voters that, hey maybe conservatives are right??

    A “core” of Constitutional voting conservatives will never gain any power and will doom the Republican Party to irrelevancy. It’s you and defeatists like you-sorry Mike, you too, you know I love ya man- who want all or nothing and will end up getting us nothing but another 4 years of President Shit Sammich. Last election, over 30 MILLION conservatives didn’t vote. How’d that work out?

    Who would you say is the best spokesman for our values? In my book, it’s Sarah with Ryan in the House and DeMint in the Senate-are they “manipulating” me? I sure haven’t heard them put out a call for us to sit this one out because we didn’t get our way.

  9. Hey, MM, agree to disagree and all that. I’ve seen the movie you want me to see enough times that I already know the ending. I don’t care to watch it again.

    Best spokesman for our values? I won’t argue with your choices. But I do argue with the notion that those people will ever get anything done in a Gentry GOP dominated Republican Party. If that means losing for a while to take a chance on winning the real prize later, I’d rather go that route that give another iota of support to Romney, McConnell, Boehner, McCain, Alexander, Corker, Blunt, Collins, Graham, Lugar…

  10. I am 1000% on board. You will note I have been of this mind for many months – my nickname for Romney has hinted at my way of thinking. It truly is time for the Republican party to be set on fire and tossed off a (preferably) very tall cliff.

    After the epically dishonest, nasty, and vicious campaign ran by Willard Fillmoure Romneycare, coupled with the dishonest manipulation of the voting rules, delegates, states, and counting by the Republican party this year, it’s became OBVIOUS that they are going to stomp on any real conservatives, and then, after raping us, demand we “back” their piece of human garbage RINO with our votes, effort, and money.

    No more.

    I refuse to reward a restaurant that constantly tries feeding me a s*&^-sandwich by paying them for the privilege.

    no conservative?

    No Vote.

    My family and I will be staying home in November. You Mush RINOS can drag your worthless heap of crap Willard across the finish line without our help, approval, or money.

    Mitt Romney – just another Democrat.

    /pass

  11. Stephen R

    4/20/2012 at 11:47 PM (UTC -5)

    Four Words:

    Supreme Court Justice Eric Holder

    The RINOS will be to blame for that. I don’t care if King Barry Hussein provokes civil war 2. I would not vote for Willard Fillmoure Romneycareto if you held a gun to my first-born’s head and threatened to pull the trigger.

    I will see every single thing I hold dear burned to ash before I will provide any support for that worthless statist Rombot.

    NEVER.

    And believe me, I am DONE with Republicans forever. This was the last damn straw.

    My vote is now a vote of revenge, and I will use it as a weapon to HARM whichever political party has pissed me off more each year – since no parties anymore actually promote conservative principles.

    Votes are earned.

  12. Short of an armed rebellion, let’s make it IMPOSSIBLE to step back from the brink.

    If that’s what it takes, so be it. I’ll take that over voting for Romney.

  13. You make light of an armed rebellion. It would be chaos. Lots of people would die. It’s a last fucking resort and it’s so far back of the highest shelf, I believe it’s uncalled for at present when we have a viable Republican Party to work within.

    You fucking defeatists are the ones that will get us into an armed conflict. You have no sense of the history of progressivism. They’ve been hard at it for over 100 years, never relenting. Yet you think RRll is walking the earth now and will banish all of them to never never land with one fell swoop.

    Maybe my patience and optimism is reflected by the work I do but I believe we’ve awoken millions of people to the dangers of REgressivism in the past 3 years. In the same fashion that they tunneled into our institutions using our values and principles against us, we’ve started to reverse this seemingly irreversible onslaught.

    Yeah, take your ball and go home. Pussies. I’ll be the one you see walking my precinct. I’ll be the one ferrying people to vote. And yeah, I’ll be the one, sucking it down yet one more fucking time and voting for the FAR lesser of 2 evils.

  14. Let’s see if I’ve got this straight. We have a person who is willing to bend over and take it from the Gentry GOP an indeterminate number of times… calling other people a pussy.

    I see no one making light of an armed rebellion. As with all war, it would be horrific. Yet, unlike mush-headed pacifists, I thought people on the right like you and I were supposed to understand that, as bad as war can be, it is still sometimes the least bad option. We are not to that point yet, but I think it’s foolish given the trends in my lifetime to think we can’t get there in the next couple of decades.

    I’d also suggest you take a broader perspective. It doesn’t take armed rebellion for lots of people to die. In fact, based on 20th century history, the maximum risk to lives is not from an armed rebellion. It’s from collectivists who take over – Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot being sterling examples.

    I think it’s possible, or even likely, that people like you are playing right into the collectivists’ hands right here in the US. You refer to the history of progressivism, but seem not to realize that that history is one of rigging the game in their favor. Part of that in the US was to co-opt the other side by getting them to grant the foundational assumptions of the left about the role of government. The Gentry GOP has fallen in line with that rigged game, and in fact some of them seem to revel in it.

    By declaring that you are prepared to play the rigged game forever, I think you are the one giving up. You’ve seen the end of the road we’re travelling in the pages of history, you’ve fought over the steering wheel of the vehicle again and again, and the best you have achieved is a few taps on the brake. No change in direction, and only small changes in speed. Well, despite their protestations, the left is fine with that. As long as we get to the end of the road, they achieve their goal.

    I have come to the reluctant conclusion, after my own decades-long journey of pounding yard signs, contributing money, and schlepping down to stand in line at the polls, that the only way to get off that road is to change the rules. Definition of insanity, etc. etc.

    I salute your patience. And I’d love to be wrong about this, and see you being right. I’d like the horse to sing. I just don’t think there’s any reasonable chance that you are right, and I refuse to delude myself otherwise.

    If you want to insult my fortitude for refusing to cooperate with people who have screwed me over my whole life, well, all I can say is I hope you gain some kind of pleasure out of the times in the future that you’ll get your own screwings from them. Because I believe it’s inevitable that you’re going to get them.

  15. You make light of an armed rebellion. It would be chaos. Lots of people would die. It’s a last fucking resort and it’s so far back of the highest shelf, I believe it’s uncalled for at present when we have a viable Republican Party to work within.

    I never made light of spit.

    Don’t put words in my mouth. Where did I state that a hypothetical revolution would be a cakewalk? Where did I portray the horrors of war as an ordered affair that is guaranteed to come to come to a near bloodless utopia?

    You won’t find me saying such anywhere. I’ve seen war. I know what it is, and who dies, and what it’s like to watch someone expire in front of you – friends no less. To this day I do not speak to my family of the things I have seen. Nor do I like to dwell on it.

    But know this – there are worse things that dying. And there are things more important than living.

    You fucking defeatists are the ones that will get us into an armed conflict. You have no sense of the history of progressivism. They’ve been hard at it for over 100 years, never relenting. Yet you think RRll is walking the earth now and will banish all of them to never never land with one fell swoop.

    I am of the opinion that you and I grew up on different history books. I guess things have changed since I went to school in a little one room affair in southwestern Montana?

    My history books showed me what happens when people sit back and let evil people take complete control of everything. My history books showed me that the greatest evil of all is not hate – but apathy.

    Apathetic wastrels that sit back, and stand silently while the evil men run unchecked. My teachers and my history books painted vivid pictures of people in the Ukraine being starved to death by their “betters” and and of the Reds in China murdering millions while the population huddled in callow submission.

    Apathetic boot-lickers who just sit down, and take it, year after year, decade after decade, and stand by idle while evil monsters do what evil monsters do.

    You want to look upon the most horrid and pure example of wickedness? Gaze then at the man willing to do nothing, and pray to god the man you are peering at is not yourself.

    Maybe my patience and optimism is reflected by the work I do but I believe we’ve awoken millions of people to the dangers of REgressivism in the past 3 years. In the same fashion that they tunneled into our institutions using our values and principles against us, we’ve started to reverse this seemingly irreversible onslaught.

    The establishment RePubic hacks count the votes, and make the rules. They damn near can’t loose. Or do I need to start listing all of the horrible, primary bulls*&^ that the hatchet-men, minions, and d(*&-suckers forcing Willard on us pulled?

    How much cheating, fraud, twisting, and bending of the “rules” has to go on before you can figure out that the game is horribly (and deliberately), rigged against conservatives, and that the solution is not to role-play the gentry-class republicans b(*ches, but to pull out a machete and start carving the republican party into bloody kibble?

    I can’t speak for you “friend” but Willard Fillmoure Romneycare, and his dishonest, mean-spirited, democrat in all but name campaign is the “compromise of 1850” moment as far as I am concerned. And I will do everything in my power to put my steel toe boot up the Republican establishment’s ass at every opportunity from here on out. They are public enemy number ONE, and I can’t focus on fighting the commie democrats until we rout out the enemies that hide in our ranks.

    Yeah, take your ball and go home.

    Godd*&^%$ right we will. The republicans don’t deserve to be rewarded for this behavior. And sometimes, standing up for your principles is very painful. And if the price of my convictions is 4 more years of President Dog-eater, my limbs, my money, my family, my life, or my wealth, then by God, I will pay Charon his due, and hope aboard the Styx express.

    Pussies. I’ll be the one you see walking my precinct. I’ll be the one ferrying people to vote. And yeah, I’ll be the one, sucking it down yet one more fucking time and voting for the FAR lesser of 2 evils.

    P*ssies? Hey man, I am not the one willing to bend over and spread my cheeks like a good supplicant apparatchik. I am willing to loose everything up to and including my life or the lives of those close to me – because some things are more critical than breathing – or even your children breathing. Liberty is one of them.

    When you are willing to lay face down, *ss up in bed, presenting yourself to the establishment hacks so complacently, I’d be damn careful about throwing the ‘coward” word around – I personally think you doth protest much. For further reading, I’d suggest a google search of the word “projection.”

  16. Wow! The above exchange is one of the reasons why CF is the only website (alongside Andrew Breitbart’s — may his memory be a blessing — enterprise) I regularly read and have bookmarked. I really appreciate the passion coupled with logic presented here.
    The problem of getting around any establishment is that the people entrenched within think they deserve to be there: I’ve participated in all the board/policy meetings for years so it’s my turn, I kissed the ass and raised the money to get here, blah self-serving blah. I experienced this when I was a far-left social democrat nut many moons ago. Amnesty Int’l, Model UN, Dem Socialists of America, whatever the diseased group, it’s always the same old song — screw your ideas, sensible or not, better than mine or not. I was here first, I want the position and my little powertrip, so go away. Or get in line and shut up.
    How do you change perpetual sucking machines? Electorally, voters need to pledge to throw out the old after 4-6-8 years, no matter how much you love your current Congresscritter/Water Commissioner/Other Elected Poobah. Personally, as I know no one is irreplaceable, I’d modify the old Athenian method and choose who’ll serve by computer lottery. Rotate the staffs every few years so bureaucracies at every level are also not able to become the fossilized self-serving class we all know and despise. Other than radically de-emphasizing the importance of government and serving in it, the only way to get sweeping change is most likely with violence or the threat of same. Because human nature doesn’t change much, and big, insecure egos that need satisfying are here to stay. They ain’t givin’ up without a fight.

  17. I’m not bending over for anyone. I’m in the game(for now), you, apparently, aren’t. So quit your holier than thou bitching.

    I’m not the least fucking bit happy that Romney is our nominee, in fact I’m fucking madder than hell. But just tell me how opting out of the only process available to us is going solve anything? Oh yeah, I see now, everything will go to shit and there’ll be donkeys walking the streets with pots clanging. Yeah, great fucking plan.

    I see more and more Constitutional conservatives getting elected. I see the left dominated media losing billions with papers closing constantly. I see real educational reform happening every where like just recently in Louisiana. I see public sector unions getting rolled back. Is this happening everywhere and as quickly as I want? Of course not but the fact is, it is happening.

    Why the fuck do you want? Or maybe I should say, what the fuck do you expect? For our sides’ version of the Messiah to drift on down from above? It Ain’t Gonna Happen. i know my history very well. I know how this insidious notion of huge and benevolent government took root. It started in our colleges in the 1880s with the infection of progressivism brought over from Europe. REgressives have never been shy about steering us to a cradle to grave society with an elite few making decisions for everyone. To reverse this, short of our Montana friends’ idea, it’s going to take an equal amount of dedication.

    And Republicans have gone along-yeah it’s sickening and yeah I’m giving them another chance but I’m down to my last one. If we get more Constitutional conservatives elected and the same crap that happened in the House after the last mid terms, happens again, than I’m open to suggestions. But for this cycle, I’m all in for Romney.

  18. I’m not bending over for anyone.

    That’s not what your vote in November will be saying.

    But hey, whatever equivocation you need so you can sleep at night. A vote for Willard Fillmoure Romneycare is giving your approval for everything he does and everything he represents. That’s what a vote is you know. It’s your stamp of approval.

    So yes, yes you are bending over.

    You are sitting down at the restaurant, and rewarding the management that gave you a fetid hunk of crap by paying them for it. The lesson they will take away from this is that you like to eat rotten s*&^, and they will serve it for you time and time again, knowing full well you’ll eat it.

    Mad as hell? Ohhhhh scary! Whatcha gonna do about it? Nothing. Nothing and they know it. Newsflash: They don’t care if you grumble a bit while to lick the s*&^-globs off your lips – you still eat it, and in the end, that’s all the RINOS care about.

    I’m in the game(for now), you, apparently, aren’t. So quit your holier than thou bitching.

    By “in the game” you mean letting the Republican establishment slap you around, rape you, and then, after dropping their load in your &ss, they tell you “Kitchen b*&^h – and you happily trot off to make ’em a “sammich.”

    You can be their battered housewife all you want – it’s a free country. Those of us with even a modicum of self respect however, are going to stand up, and tell the RNC to pound sand.

    I’m not the least fucking bit happy that Romney is our nominee, in fact I’m fucking madder than hell.

    You have a funny way of showing your anger – by voting for the toad, and rewarding the RePubics for cleaning off your colon the hard way. Good job – the message is clear – they can give it to you and your own good and hard, and you will give them votes. Hows that for incentivising perverse behavior.

    But just tell me how opting out of the only process available to us is going solve anything? Oh yeah, I see now, everything will go to shit and there’ll be donkeys walking the streets with pots clanging. Yeah, great fucking plan.

    When a building has reached a point where it can no longer be renovated, you must tear it to the ground, and hope for the best. They will not allow you to fix the republican party, upstarts will be crushed, systems will be gamed, and only by refusing to reward poor behavior with rewards will anything change.

    It’s no different than raising kids. When they are bad, you spank the s*&^ outta them. This is not easy – indeed, short term, it’s very painful – for you and the child. Sure it’s easier to let the kid do whatever the f*&^ they want, but in the end, you are reinforcing bad behavior.

    Our gentry class is the enemy – ALL of it. They need a giant spanking. The near term results of this will be considerable pain. But the alternative, is far worse.

    I see more and more Constitutional conservatives getting elected.

    I see the conservatives gaming for office co-opted, abandoned on the field of battle, or shot in the back by Mush RINOS supposedly on their side. I see the rules flagrantly being bent and abused to twist the election results they way the establishment wants. I see piss faced RePubics who get primaried out run as independents or switch parties – with very little difficulty I must note.

    I see the left dominated media losing billions with papers closing constantly.

    While it’s nice to pretend that some conservative tsunami is “slaying” the evil liberal media dragon, the fact is, dead tree and TV media is dying out because of the internet making them obsolete. I wish more than anybody that it was a rejections of their principles to blame for their collapse – but as the traffic to the liberal sites bears out – it’s not the leftists beliefs that are dying – it’s the medium.

    I see real educational reform happening every where like just recently in Louisiana. I see public sector unions getting rolled back. Is this happening everywhere and as quickly as I want? Of course not but the fact is, it is happening.

    And for every shining point I can point to 3 or 4 utter distastes in places like Detroit, Californistan, or New York.

    Why the fuck do you want?

    A conservative party. We have not had one for most of 40 years.

    Or maybe I should say, what the fuck do you expect?

    I expect the the Republican party to to everything to destroy anyone who plans on getting in the way as they feed like pigs – right next to the democrats – at the trough of state. I expect them to be rejected whole cloth by more and more people who gave them more chances then they EVER earned to fix their s*&^. Then I expect them to die out as a party, and thank God for that – it can not happen soon enough, and to more deserving @$$h*les.

    For our sides’ version of the Messiah to drift on down from above? It Ain’t Gonna Happen.

    Well there is one thing we agree on.

    No, there never will be a good presidential candidate – not so long as the Republican party exists, you are correct. We must tear it down, burn the remains, shoot the ashes, burn them again, sweep them up,. seal them in a lead container, and then blast it into space, on a collision course with the Sun.

    Then we should nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

    i know my history very well. I know how this insidious notion of huge and benevolent government took root. It started in our colleges in the 1880s with the infection of progressivism brought over from Europe. REgressives have never been shy about steering us to a cradle to grave society with an elite few making decisions for everyone. To reverse this, short of our Montana friends’ idea, it’s going to take an equal amount of dedication.

    They know people such as yourself can be safely ignored. You sit back and vote for them anyways. Who gives a CRAP what you want. You have proven, by stating your intent to vote like a good little sheep-man, that they never have to change a damn thing, and can count on your support.

    There will be no reversals of jack-s*&^ so long as callow little people go along and rubber-stamp their crap candidates with their crap ideals.

    And Republicans have gone along-yeah it’s sickening and yeah I’m giving them another chance but I’m down to my last one.

    Oh, you’ll take it just one more time. B*&&&^%t, You will bend over and take it from them again and again and again, and you will rationalize, justify, and bend your ideals just enough to eat the next pile of *&^% in 2016.

    Who cares if you b*&^h about it, you still eat it, and thus, you approve of it. You CONDONE all of this crap. I don’t care what you moan and cry and blubber about on the internet – when push comes to shove, the only thing that matters – your vote – says this:

    “I approve of progressive Republicans. I whine and moan to the contrary, but my vote says that I am just as guilty, and stand in solidarity with the RINOS and Compassionate Conservatives – though my actions and support I am moving this country closer to North Korea each year, and doing so of my own free will.”

    You sir, despite your impotent lamentations to the contrary, are a progressive. You say you’re not – your VOTE says otherwise. RINO. Hows that saying go, you miserable little prog?

    Oh yeah… actions speak louder than words.

    I choose to ignore your lying words liberal. I shall focus on your deeds.

  19. You certainly seem to have a fixation with homosexual anal sex bub-why is that?

    I have seen plenty of you Kommander Keyboarders, sitting in your basement, bitching and moaning because the ball took a bad hop. Boo-fucking-hoo. Talking all kinds of bad ass about, bring it on. Sure silverdeth, sure.

    The choice of either sitting out this election or getting behind our nominee is a simple one when you see the destruction that Obama has brought down in 3 years on this country. And with the “flexibility” he get after millions of pussies like you sit on their thumbs, you’ve sentenced your children to an America that was far different than the country your parents left you. Great plan.

    This piece in today’s WaPo describes exactly what I’ve been saying. It took a long time for REgressives to get us here. They never stopped even with RR in office, never. But pussies like you, daunted by REgressive success and Republican cave ins, wanting all or nothing, would rather give up. Sounds like Regressives are, as they say, living rent free in your head. This piece details, despite the seemingly public rebuking of the recently elected Constitutional conservatives, the great things they were able to accomplish in the House.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/book-gop-freshman-class-turned-into-a-monster-for-boehner-other-house-leaders/2012/04/22/gIQAV15PaT_story.html

    My advice? Seriously, get a handle on your anger, lose the buttcheek references in your writing and work your ass off to get Rehberg elected. And while you’re in the voting booth, pulling the lever for Rehberg, consider what twice the number of Constitutional conservatives in Congress could do with even a squish like Romney as President as opposed to Obama.

  20. I am sorry, I am having difficulty hearing you over all of your “I am a progressive liberal who votes for progressive liberals.”

    You certainly seem to have a fixation with homosexual anal sex bub-why is that?

    You’ll have to forgive me, but I am a gentleman that is very fond of accurately describing what I witness. And in your case, what I am watching, is a progressive liberal sitting back, and allowing the establishment to… how shall i put it delicately for your sensitive eyes… “diddling your peenie.”

    Sure you complain about it, and make a big show about how mad it makes you – but when push comes to shove, in the only way that matters, you prove you really like it.

    I have seen plenty of you Kommander Keyboarders, sitting in your basement, bitching and moaning because the ball took a bad hop. Boo-fucking-hoo. Talking all kinds of bad ass about, bring it on. Sure silverdeth, sure.

    I find Mall Ninja is a superior pejorative when seeking to malign somebody you think is too “gung-ho.” It’s more succinct, and rolls off the tongue better. Kommander Keyboard? Really? Rules for snarky internet cut-down slurs clearly state – if it’s more than 3 Syllables it’s probably too long. You can sometimes get around the above if you have sufficient wit, oratory skills or writing talent, but I think everyone at this pint is well aware that you don’t have to worry about that corollary.

    The choice of either sitting out this election or getting behind our nominee is a simple one when you see the destruction that Obama has brought down in 3 years on this country.

    Carter was worse.

    And with the “flexibility” he get after millions of pussies like you sit on their thumbs, you’ve sentenced your children to an America that was far different than the country your parents left you. Great plan.

    Oh, and the sure path to national salvation is installing a man that is the white version of President Downgrade. Great plan! And to think – the solution was just so simple! We can replace black Obama with White Obama, and it’s all fixed!! Weeeee!

    I mean hell it’s not like Willard passed a giant commie-health care system just like Obama… er snap…

    Well then, I mean, hell it’s not like Willard appointed tons of leftists judges to … the… er…. s*&^…

    I know! At least Mittens was a fiscal conservative that reigned in… the… spend..ing at… f*&^…

    Ah-ha! It was Rombot’s’ firm stand buttressing the 2nd amendment! I mean, He certainly didn’t pass a barrage of gun-grabbing laws… er uh… I mean… d*&^-it!

    Ummm at least he didn’t go along hook-line-and-sinker with the flat earth no growth eco-marxists in promoting global warming sure…ly.. he… well crap.

    They classified this thread under “difference without distiction” for a d*&^ good reason.

    White Obama, Black Obama, who cares who’s running, I ain’t voting for either Obama. You can prostrate yourself and wear your prog-badge with pride. I, and many thousands like me, will abstain, and work to put the sick dog that is the Republican party down.

    It’s leg’s broke – only thing you can do is shoot it in the head, dig a hole with the Farm-hand, and bury her.

    This piece in today’s WaPo describes exactly what I’ve been saying. It took a long time for REgressives to get us here. They never stopped even with RR in office, never. But pussies like you, daunted by REgressive success and Republican cave ins, wanting all or nothing, would rather give up. Sounds like Regressives are, as they say, living rent free in your head. This piece details, despite the seemingly public rebuking of the recently elected Constitutional conservatives, the great things they were able to accomplish in the House.

    Again with the “p***y” thing. Apparently, the irony of a coward passively sitting back, while allowing the gentry GOP to “cop a feel” and then hurling invectives at those taking a principled ideological stand against tyrants, is as lost on you as snarky comebacks and witty rebuttals.

    And really? Using the Washington Compost to make an appeal to authority? My God man! If you are going to commit a fallacy in a debate, at least have the dignity to dig up some outlet that is not just another Republocrat propaganda tool.

    My advice? Seriously, get a handle on your anger, lose the buttcheek references in your writing and work your ass off to get Rehberg elected. And while you’re in the voting booth, pulling the lever for Rehberg, consider what twice the number of Constitutional conservatives in Congress could do with even a squish like Romney as President as opposed to Obama.

    Tester knows how to position himself on guns and freebies for the high-line farmers, combined with the leverage the U of M and MSU idiots give him, he will probably win even with President Downgrade handing off his balls like a loadstone. And Denny is in trouble for selling out on a number of key issues as it is. I’ll have you know we worked phones for the man, and he rewarded our diligence by knifing conservatives in the back. Oh yeah, we were watching when he voted to lift the debt ceiling.

    Like so many others, good ol Denny is a real patriot on home soil, but his knees give out as soon as he gets back to D.C.

    I am to hope that the RINO mushes that have rubber stamped Obama’s legislative agenda will suddenly develop testicles in the face of their own party-members?

    Sorry man. There is no such thing as Santa, Leprechauns, the Easter Bunny, or Nice, pretty, non-man-hating Lesbians.

    I hate to break it to ya. But i felt it necessary to start with the “little lies” first, because the “big ones” are gonna rock your wold…

    Now then… about those “Republicans” taking a “firm and principles stand against one of their own…”

  21. Carter was worse.

    Matter of opinion, but his position at the bottom of the heap was secure until 0bama came along. At least when Carter gave away the Panama Canal, he had the blessing of Congress. With 0bama, we have a tyrant who holds both the Constitution and Congress (as well as the citizenry in general) in complete contempt. He will continue to rule by executive decree until *someone* grows a pair and *calls* the s.o.b. on it. Even if the articles of impeachment were to die in the Senate, why the hell can’t the members of the House of Representatives draw up the articles and at least *try* to defend their jobs?

    Screw ’em all. Woodrow Wilson should have been tarred and feathered for his treasonous utopianism back in his day, and don’t even get me started on the manifold sins of FDR. There’s no corner of Hell hot enough for those traitors, and those who to this day “worship” their interpretation of the Constitution as a “living document”.

  22. I can’t find much fault in your observations and way of thinking. As I had stated on Daily Pundit – ObMAO seems to be the love-child o’ Jimmy Carter and James Buchanan.

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