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Tailoring the message, or kowtowing to the “moderates?”

March 2nd, 2009

Ace expounds on a proposition I don’t think I can really agree with:

Now, I can say that most moderates and centrists are really politically stupid and, in many ways, politically childish. They might be quite smart in other ways, but in this area, whether through lack of interest or lack of brainpower, they’re dumb.

I can say that because I’m talking to a group of partisans who are informed and interested in politics.

Limbaugh can say that — and indeed has said it — for the same reason.

Michael Steele cannot say that.

He knows it, same as you. But he cannot say it. And if Limbaugh says something along those lines, of course he’ll immediately have to say how silly that is and that Rush is just trying to be provocative and that he’s incendiary and so forth.

Like I said, I don’t think I can buy that, or more accurately, into the thinking that underlies it. Limbaugh is of course an entertainer first and foremost, and there’s nothing wrong with that, or with acknowledging it. But the idea that we can’t or shouldn’t say things that are objectively and obviously true is, I think, a big part of why we’re in the mess we’re in right now.

Mealy-mouthed doublespeak, euphemisms, and milquetoast dodges uttered to placate so-called “moderates” (who are merely people who don’t have any real conviction, or the courage to own up to it, in a time when conviction in defense of American liberty is desperately needed) are uninspiring at best, and serve to define the person uttering them as just another political hack who’ll say anything for votes.

Think of it: how many of you were frustrated, by the end of Bush’s tenure in office, by his refusal to defend perfectly defensible positions and ideas against dishonest assaults from liberals, especially in the media? How many of you think that kind of unfortunate reticence has cost us all dearly, especially in the conduct of the now-moribund WoT? How many of you scratched your heads or cussed out loud at McCain’s Mavericky foolishness in plaintively sucking up to a liberal media establishment that clearly only liked him when he was bashing conservatives?

Ace winds up with this:

Hypothetical: Suppose during the campaign it had come out that I was in communication with McCain’s internet guys, and it became a two-day story that McCain was in communication with a homophobic, “eliminationist” Islamophobe and all that.

Now many of you like me and wish me well, and of course I’m deeply appreciative of that. It’s a great feeling.

But, if, hypothetically, McCain had to denounce me, how much could you hold that against McCain? I mean, what’s more important, getting a Republican president or my hurt feelings?

Again: wrong. Feelings don’t enter into it, so it’s the wrong question. The question ought to be this: what’s more important, getting a Republican president who will righteously and unequivocally assert conservative values — Constitutional values, AMERICAN values — or getting a liberal with an R after his name, who will suck up to all the right DC dirtbags and a media establishment that is clearly antipathetic to those values? Put yet another way, what’s more important: doing our level best to see an honest, staunch, and forthright defender of liberty elected President, or settling for some R-cipher that Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Ted Kennedy can “reach across the aisle” and work with, and that they consider acceptable?

If you’re puzzling over the answer, here’s a hint: one outcome is absolutely the only way America That Was can be restored. The other is just more of the exact same thing that got us here in the first place.

Choose wisely, folks. Some things are worth fighting for, and some folks are not worth the effort of placating and, frankly, damned well need to be offended. Unvarnished, plainspoken truth is one of those things worth fighting for — vigorously, in such a way that no mistake can be made about our commitment to them. Dumbed-down mush from the mouths of drones frightened of giving offense to the ignorant and/or spineless — the “politically stupid and, in many ways, politically childish” — is not. And it’s high time somebody stood up to the liars and forced them to deal with the truth directly, rather than tiptoe around it just for the sake of being polite.

Update! A related assertion from Bill:

I am coming more and more to realize that in a situation where the the leadership of both parties favors variations on the same theme of big-statism nanny-government, then the formal political realignment in this country will probably entail the destruction of both major parties as we know them today.

From where I sit, that looks more and more like the only real hope we have.

Updated update! Also related: Paul Ibrahim knows the score:

The fact is that the GOP has been doing precisely what it claims it wants to do now – helping moderate and liberal Republicans it sees as more electable, at the expense of conservatives. Cornyn’s plan is nothing new. It has been tried and it has failed.

It is non-conservative Republicans who have gotten the party to where it is today. It is the massive spending and government enlargement that have forced a significant part of the base to abandon the GOP. It is the pork projects and the related corruption of “moderates” that have dragged down the Republican brand. The people who have decidedly not been the downfall of the Republican Party are its conservatives.

Precisely. Republicans need to try real leadership for a change, instead of continuing to me-too liberal/socialist initiatives and placating so-called moderates. Part of leadership is not watering down the message to appeal to people who either don’t pay attention until just before election day, or are never going to agree with conservatives in the first place.

The idea behind most of the “big-tent” calls is that it’s the only way to win elections, and winning is better than losing, even if winning means continuing along the same old big government path. But the GOP has been using that approach for years now, and, as Ibrahim states, they have failed utterly. They have to decide whether they really want to lead, or if they want “moderates” to continue leading them…right over the cliff.

Clarification (hopefully): After considering this post again carefully, I realize I didn’t make my point as clearly and coherently as I might’ve. It’s essentially this: conservatives have allowed themselves to lose the initiative and instead be placed on the defensive by their opponents, and nobody ever won a war that way. It doesn’t have to be so, and I can’t see any reason why any of us should stand still for it. To use Ace’s own hypothetical: no, none of us would blame McCain for disavowing him publicly after accusations of “homophobia” and “eliminationist Islamophobia” — if the accusations were true.

But, see, that’s just it: as with so many of the incidents of yelping outrage from the Left — against Ace, against Bush, against Limbaugh — they patently AREN’T true. And what’s worse, these accusations are not made sincerely, in good faith; they’re a tactic, a particularly underhanded and devious one. When we meekly allow ourselves to be maneuvered into the aforementioned defensive, by responding to false charges with an eye primarily on not offending the mushy middle — well, at that point the game is lost, and deservedly so.

Michael Steele may well consider Rush “incendiary,” “ugly,” and generally offensive; if so, he might’ve said so back when he was appearing on Limbaugh’s show to advance his political career, as I seem to recollect hearing about a while back. But I don’t think he really does; I think he was tailoring his message to the audience he was appearing in front of. Anyone who’s seen Limbaugh’s CPAC speech knows that he wasn’t “angry” or “rage-filled” or hateful; by responding to dishonest liberal accusations of such with a denunciation of Rush, thereby implicitly agreeing with them — rather than explicating and condemning both the smears and the mendacious thugs making them — Steele lost a valuable opportunity; allowed them to once again frame the debate in dishonest terms; played right into the opposition’s hands; and made himself, and by extension the rest of us, look weak and foolish, if not downright disgraceful, for ever having associated ourselves with such an egregious cad at all.

If you really think that’s a winning formula, well, I’d suggest you think again. It isn’t; it might be suck-butt politics as usual (Allahpundit says, “pandering to centrists is a political fact of life for politicians,” but I don’t know too many people who prefer pandering to real, honest leadership, and I would hope there aren’t too many of them on our side of the divide), but I doubt I’m the only one who’s good and tired of that sort of thing, and would like to see it brought to the inglorious end it so deserves.

As I said earlier: how’d all that pandering to “centrists” work out for McCain, anyway?

Maybe I’m being too naive here, but as far as I’m concerned, if the current Republican leadership isn’t willing to confront the liars, dismantle their false assertions, and stand up for those who speak clearly and directly for what’s supposedly their base, they deserve to keep right on losing. We the people want more honest and courageous leaders; we’ll eventually find them. And if the GOP wishes to remain an obstacle to plainspoken integrity and American values rather than vigorously defending them, we’ll ignore them — like they’ve ignored conservatives for years.

The statists are on the attack, and they’re driving us as if we were green, berry-picking Union troops at First Manassas. It’s well past time for our supposed leaders to start fighting back, rather than sheepishly staring at their shoe tops and muttering fainthearted apologies.

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  1. emdfl
    March 2nd, 2009 at 20:06 | #1
    You got it; Ace doesn't.
  2. Thomas Jackson
    March 2nd, 2009 at 20:07 | #2
    Great post! You get it-Steele and Ace don't.

    The GOP is where it is today because of the leadership of people like Steele. People who are out of touch and clueless.

  3. Martin
    March 2nd, 2009 at 21:17 | #3
    Well, Mike, you're spot on, but two thoughts come to my mind right away, the first one a bit harsh, perhaps, the second one less so.

    First, the bitter: Remember back about a year (or more) ago, when lots of conservatives (including you, I believe) were saying that the ascendancy of the likes of McCain and Huckabee marked the decline of the Republican party's traditional conservative roots? Remember all the people saying the Republicans should lose the elections and spend a few years in the political wilderness?

    Well, welcome to the wilderness. This is what being in the political wilderness is like and it ain't gonna get better for a good long time. Heck, right now at least President Obamachrist is at least pretending to listen to the Rs. As soon as he realizes that buys him nothing, he'll go back to ignoring and/or ridiculing them (or having his brainwashed acolytes do it for him. The Messiah can't be seen getting his hands dirty.)

    I can't help but think that a lot of people who believed that the Republicans deserved political exile have forgotten what that's like. No, the Clinton years were not it - Clinton was a narccisistic power grabber who was more interested in getting his fried-chicken-stained fingers on the levers of power than he was in bringing about the revolution (I always had the idea Clinton was the kind of 60's "radical" who was more interested at scoring some hippy poontang at the "peace" rally than he was in ending the war in Vietnam.)

    For a real look back at political exile, we have to see the Republican party after the Watergate debacle. A Republican couldn't get elected dog catcher for years after that. That's why Barack isn't Clinton II, he's Carter II, complete with the same preachiness and thin skin. Those days of the Church Commission, military budgets slashed, worldwide humiliation? Get ready for it again.

    So that's the bad news. The good? Well, this is really just a part of the ebb and flow of American politics. Let's face it, when the Republicans were ascendant, there were a lot of power-greedy politicians and other hangers-on who just stuck their fingers in the wind and went with the R not because they believed in the Republican ideology in any way, but because it appeared that the Republicans were winners.

    American politics has a tendency to encourage solidarity and committment among the losing party, and fractiousness and divisiveness among the winning party.

    Carter was bad, there's no way around it, but had there been no Carter, there would not have been a Reagan.

  4. happyfeet
    March 2nd, 2009 at 22:07 | #4
    When there's a deranged socialist in your White House defiling your little country and her freedoms and implementing a George Soros agenda designed to spay and neuter her economy and her dynamism, you don't measure your words. You're right. Ace is wrong. Next question.
  5. March 2nd, 2009 at 22:14 | #5
    Well, welcome to the wilderness.

    Martin: I was one of those people who wanted to see the GoP in exile, and even after seeing Obama do exactly what I figured he would do, I still want them there. They have become so seduced by Washington that we cannot in good conscience keep voting them in under the lesser-of-two-evils plan.

    And while it's true that Carter gave us Reagan, Carter also gave us the Ayatollah.

    So there's that.

    Elections have consequences. And I'm willing to deal with the bad ones, even when they last a long, long time. That's the price you pay for standing up for true principles.

    But if smacking the GoP upside the head (and the rest of the country to boot) gets us a nice rightward swing, it will be worth it.

  6. March 2nd, 2009 at 22:20 | #6
    Here's what I wrote in a different context, but the message remains the same: each time we cede ground, we trade a bit o of principle for what we THINK is a bit of pragmatism.

    But the real pragmatism is a steadfast refusal to cede principle, because by doing so we cede the logical high ground. And it is there that pragmatism and idealism collide -- because there is only one way language can be said to work correctly.

    It really is that simple.

  7. Jeff G
    March 2nd, 2009 at 22:27 | #7
    Oh, and well said.

    These apologists are getting more dangerous than they are tiresome, if you ask me.

    -- But then, I'm already acclimated to the wilderness, so I can say whatever the fuck I want now.

  8. White Ringer
    March 3rd, 2009 at 01:48 | #8
    Well effin said Mike. Drives me absolutely bat-shit.
  9. Hyman Roth
    March 3rd, 2009 at 09:33 | #9
    This was a straw-man argument. Centrist vs. extremist is a non-issue. Stop tilting at windmills.

    Republicans will keep losing power unless we purge religion from our platform.

    Religion has no role in government, as stated in the First Amendment. Religion is a personal issue, and should be kept private. I don't care if its Christianity, Islam, or Judaism: keep it to yourself, or other religions can demand the same accomodation by the government (Sharia law).

    Take abortion, creationism and abstinence-only sex education out of the debate, and the Democrats will have nothing to use against us.

  10. Martin
    March 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 | #10
    Hyman: So, what you're saying is that the republicans should become Libertarians? Nice thought, and commonly heard on the internet, but it doesn't work. Millions of Americans identify as Christians and expect the government to support their beliefs via legislation.

    Or to put it differently, put yourself in the mind of a Christian conservative. If the Republican party is going to stand for gay marriage and abortion on demand, then why not just vote for a democrat? Or a 3rd party? Or just say 'a pox on both their houses' and stay home?

    Even in a best case scenario, the Christian conservatives get split between the Republicans and a third party which automatically means the Democrats win.

    Republicans are never going to win committed liberals over - never. And without religious conservatives, the republicans become a permanent minority party.

  11. March 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 | #11
    Hugely calling people Nazis wasn't "incendiary and ugly" to Steele. But saying you want the President's Socialist Agenda to fail IS "incendiary and ugly"?

    Steele's rubber.

  12. Martin
    March 3rd, 2009 at 11:33 | #12
    Hugely calling people Nazis wasn't "incendiary and ugly" to Steele. But saying you want the President's Socialist Agenda to fail IS "incendiary and ugly"?

    Steele's rubber.

    Yes but he's black, which is apparently qualification enough for the Republican party, currently drifting around in the ocean without any sails.

    Another example of trying to beat the Democrats by aping them? That's what it looks like to me.

  13. George Orwell
    March 3rd, 2009 at 14:29 | #13
    Absolutely, fucking awesome.
  14. George Orwell
    March 3rd, 2009 at 14:37 | #14
    As I said earlier: how’d all that pandering to “centrists” work out for McCain, anyway?

    Yes, yes, yes, yes. Can we look at results, please? It's sometimes said, by Medved for example, that Reagan won not by ideology... and his proof is that the Blue Dog Democrats voted for him.

    That is exactly backwards. Look at all of Reagan's rhetoric. Not exactly the squishy middle. Reagan could not have won without the Blue Dog Democrats. But they voted for him because they agreed with much of his ideology, not in spite of it.

  15. March 3rd, 2009 at 17:29 | #15
    Republicans will keep losing power unless we purge religion from our platform.

    The Democrat party platform is packed with items that are religious in nature. Many of them would point to Christianity as the rationale for their support for the Nanny State.

    The problem lies in not defending either our principles or our people. Steele should have started by rejecting the comparison, by challenging the premises of the question and forcing the interviewer to define his terms.

    Let's put it this way -- conservatives are endlessly smeared as "racists". Unless we challenge those making that accusation to define what they mean, AND TO STICK TO THAT DEFINITION, we'll never be able to defend against it. They'll continue to shift the definition from under us, so that as soon as we've disproven allegation #435, along comes allegation #436,

  16. deadrody
    March 3rd, 2009 at 19:37 | #16
    The worst part of it is, as ACE himself admits, he and Allahpundit are calling for pandering to the middle that BY HIS OWN ADMISSION doesn't pay attention and doesn't really care.

    Why on earth would you water down your message and pander to the middle that doesn't know your message and ultimately doesn't care. Just look at the post-election polls, the vast majority of people lean more to the right, agree with conservative principles, and yet voted for the letter after Obama's name because it wasn't an R.

    That makes no sense at all.

  17. deadrody
    March 3rd, 2009 at 19:44 | #17
    o, what you're saying is that the republicans should become Libertarians? Nice thought, and commonly heard on the internet, but it doesn't work. Millions of Americans identify as Christians and expect the government to support their beliefs via legislation.

    Martin, that is completely not true. Unless you put a number on it, like 2 million. Then perhaps you are right, but pandering to the 2% of the population that thinks that way is as bad, if not worse, than pandering to the disinterested middle. If, however you think that those millions represent even close to a majority of America, you are flat out wrong.

    I don't agree with Hyman that religion needs to be banished from the platform, but I do agree it needs to be de-emphasized. It's fine to be a private christian whose beliefs in the primary tenants of our democracy are partly rooted in their faith, and it's just as fine to say so. But to endorse a nanny state based on religious beliefs is no more in concert with traditional conservative values than those of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

  18. March 3rd, 2009 at 20:30 | #18
    Great post, Mike.
  19. k2
    March 3rd, 2009 at 21:00 | #19
    Thank you Mike, again and again, for articulating what I've felt for some time.
  20. March 3rd, 2009 at 21:00 | #20
    Spot on, deadrody. Hyman is off here a little I think. Our nation is founded on the belief that our inalienable rights are endowed by our Creator. The moment we remove God entirely is when I head for the hills with my guns and whatever provisions I can load up, because some bad shit is going to happen.

    That said, I personally agree with many of the values that many social conservatives hold, but sometimes the lack of intellectual rigor and principle that they use to justify imposing their spiritual values on the rest of the country is just as distressing as when Nan and Harry try to do the same.

    Recognizing that some of the rights that give us our own freedom to be left alone also allow behavior we don't personally condone does not make a conservative a libertarian. The failure of some social conservatives to accept consistency in applying those rights might eventually do the trick though.

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