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Obama: Red China “superior to us”

You really can’t make this stuff up:

Everybody’s watching what’s going on in Beijing right now with the Olympics. Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business you’re starting to think, “Beijing looks like a pretty good option.

Yeah, right. Just never mind about that whole state-run economy thing, and the tossing of dissidents into labor camps thing, and the unbreathable air thing, and the internet-censorship thing, and the whole communist-opression thing generally.

Well, not that the Collectivist Messiah, or most other Social Dems for that matter, would have a problem with any of that, mind. I mean, seeing as how they’ve done their utmost to head us in the same direction for years anyway.

Fucking gullible, greenhorn idiot. Bought any bridges in Beijing lately, you dolt?

Know what I like about Obama, though? As with his close friend, unashamed terrorist would-be murderer Bill Ayers, it’s all right out in the open with him. You always know exactly where he’s coming from: the far, far Left.

Just don’t ever “smear” him as a communist, okay? They just hate it when you tell the truth about ’em. They start flopping around on the floor and rolling their eyes back in their heads and frothing at the mouth when you do that.

It’s actually kind of hilarious to see.

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7 thoughts on “Obama: Red China “superior to us”

  1. Mike, I’m ok with the right calling him a socialist. I don’t agree but I respect that your threshold for whether that particular term applies is different from mine. Likewise, if you’re opposed to investing a higher percentage of tax revenue in infrastructure, that’s not an unreasonable position to take, even if I disagree there as well.

    But do you really believe Obama endorses (wittingly or not) a system that sends dissidents to labor camps, destroys it’s air quality, censors internet access and stills enforces “the whole communist-opression thing generally”? I’d certainly never endorse those things but as far as I’m concerned that doesn’t preclude me from acknowledging that their investments in infrastructure have paid great dividends for them.

    Is it really that naive or gullible to believe that such public investments cannot come without oppressive Communism? Weren’t most of America’s postwar infrastructure, the roads, bridges, ports, airports, rail systems, power plants, not to mention public schools, that made America the world’s only economic superpwer for much of the 20th century built with the hep of large government subsidies and in some cases funded in whole by tax revenue? Didn’t we manage to do that without falling into a communist state?

    I’ve poked around but I can’t find a transcript of that event to say for sure whether that excerpt is taken out of context but I tend to think his intention is not nearly as pro-communist (deliberately or gullibly) as your post insists.

    yours,
    joe

  2. The problem with the American system is that if we don’t spend tax dollars on infrastructure, private industry has to spend private dollars on it, and if that infrastructure represents a compelling enough advantage to build it – antitrust regulations will force them to share it.

    So the private investors who fund its development kind of take it in the shorts.

    Imagine if you built a solar-powered monorail that stretched from coast to coast and could transport cargo from California to New York in twelve hours. Having invested all the research and all the money in making this work at all, and jumped through one regulatory hoop after another to get the clearance from every state in the path, and fought the public backlash against the “eyesore” of this project, and obediently observed every regulation in its construction… you would end up in court, because your ability to transport cargo that quickly represented too much of a competitive advantage. Anyone who wanted to compete with you would have to either use your system at your prices, or build their own. You would enjoy a monopoly on a significant segment of the market.

    And the courts would stomp all over it. They would claim that your massive investment has produced a public good which should be available to all, because the repercussions are simply unacceptable. Many smaller companies will go out of business, and even larger companies will have to reduce their profit margins to compete, and it becomes a vicious circle. So this level of private investment is a Bad Thing, and must be stopped.

    Which is why we don’t build this stuff. The people don’t want their tax dollars spent on it, and private industry doesn’t want it taken away when it proves too powerful. We don’t have the transportation infrastructure of Beijing because we don’t have a government with the cojones to say “we are going to build this, and we will raise taxes to do it, and we will seize private property under eminent domain to get it done”.

    Which is how China built it. They got to stomp in and say “this will happen whether you like it or not,” because they don’t give a rat’s ass about people’s rights.

    We can’t do it that way. It’s not the way we operate. We need to find a way that we can build the transportation infrastructure of Beijing without infringing too much on our people’s rights. We’re going to infringe; there are just too many recognised rights. The question is how to keep that infringement sufficiently minor that the public continues to support the project for the duration of time it takes to build it properly.

  3. This is just another round in the old ‘The Russians are playing chess while the Americans are playing checkers/Monopoly/hopsotch’ argument that I hit on below.*

    Can anyone say ‘Potemkin Village’? Is anyone allowed to travel around and see what actually is as opposed to the stage trappings the Chinese government put up for this show?

    *This is part of the old sneer that Americans are so provincial and everyone else is so much more superior. As I said, 400 years ago the Americans started at Jamestown, and now see what they have built. And in the same 400 years every other nation or people have done what?

    They got passed by these colonial upstarts, “the wretched refuse of your teeming shores”, that’s what happened. And they can’t stand that being shoved in their faces every. single. day.

  4. Yes I do believe Obama is gullible enough to think it can be done differently this time.

    As Caliban said, it can only be done by force. Because of course, we need a “government with the cojones to say ‘we are going to build this, and we will raise taxes to do it, and we will seize private property under eminent domain to get it done'”.

    Just remember the government with the cojones to give us coast-to-coast Maglev trains can take them away just as easily. Matter of fact, they can do just what they damn well please. The American Way? I think not.

  5. Gullible has nothing to do with it. The man admires them because they have the type of govenment that he and his friends want to impose on this country.
    Remember the clinton staffer who said – regarding “executive orders” – “Stroke of the pen; law of the land, cool!”?

  6. The corporations that admire that sort of thing are the direct descendants of those who thought that it was marvelous that Signore Mussolini made the trains run on time and Herr Hitler was good for business. There are cases on record of the Chicoms deciding that the contract they made with a western corporation was no longer useful to them, so they rolled right over onto the corporation. It’s easy to ignore when it isn’t YOUR corporation getting squashed.

    Senator Goldwater and Kennycan have it right. The government that is powerful enough to give you everything you want is powerful enough to take everything you’ve got.

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