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The amazing thing about socialized medicine, as seen from the US, is how the exemplar of the wonders of socialized medicine has to change every decade or so. When I was younger, American proponents of socialized medicine pointed at the glories of the UK and their excellent care, free to anyone who came through their doors.
Then the flaws of the NHS became too obvious to be pooh-poohed away.
So Canada’s system of free — so-called free — healthcare was touted for years. “Look at how much better they have it up there! If Canada can do it, why can’t we???”
Alas, the flaws of the various provinces’ systems have become too obvious to be pooh-poohed away.
Lately, the American supporters of nationalized healthcare have looked elsewhere. Starting five years or so ago, several have brought up Scandinavian nations as the pinnacle to which we should aspire. I wonder if part of their choice of target is that these nations’ native language is not English, so it’ll be harder for their citizens to tell Americans about the problems. (Like punitive tax rates and rationing. The usual.) Too bad for the socialists, a lot of Scandinavians speak fluent English. (And some Americans can read Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian well enough to get at least the gist of articles about problems.)
All of this covers only the patients’ point of contact with the doctors and nurses. It doesn’t even begin to address the issue of development of new drugs and devices and procedures. Very little of this is done in nations with socialized medicine. The UK, with the largest pharma research budget in Europe, comes in at about 6% of what the US spends. The UK’s population and GDP are smaller than the US’s, but much more than 6%. Canada is even worse, with about 10% of the US’s population but only about 1% of the pharma research budget. (Budgets for development of devices, surgical procedures, and other medical research were harder to put together because they’re spread across multiple categories and not equally reported across nations, so far as I could find with a few minutes’ search.)
“Socialized” medicine is like the rest of “socialized”, always a failure, always deadly.
That’s just because they didn’t do it right, those other times. This time for sure!
Ok, managed to get the comments back working, but knocked Mike’s last medical post down. I’ll work on that, perhaps create an update post for Mike News to stay up at top.
Edit: Ok figured out how the sticky stuff works and pushed Mike’s original post back to the top…
I updated the Requiescat post with a link to BCE’s post. If you want something else done, let me know.
Thanks, good idea with the link.
Open to suggestion here. Should we leave Mike’s original post up top with updates at the bottom? Or just let it slide with and update and links to the original and BCE posts? Or something else?
I’m going to update with just a recent bit, nothing major…
LMK how I can help.
CA
Thanks CA, keep an eye out here and if there is anything CF readers can do we’ll post it up.
Wilco