Anybody surprised by this? You shouldn’t be, really; people like me have only been screaming it from the rooftops since, oh, early 2020 or thereabouts.
The Harm Caused by Masks
A new study suggests that the excess carbon dioxide breathed in by mask-wearers can have major health consequences.
Evidence continues to mount that mask mandates were perhaps the worst public-health intervention in modern American history. While concluding that wearing masks “probably makes little or no difference” in preventing the spread of viruses, a recent Cochrane review also emphasized that “more attention should be paid to describing and quantifying the harms” that may come from wearing masks. A new study from Germany does just that, and it suggests that the excess carbon dioxide breathed in by mask-wearers may have substantial ill-effects on their health—and, in the case of pregnant women, their unborn children’s.
Mask-wearers breathe in greater amounts of air that should have been expelled from their bodies and released out into the open. “[A] significant rise in carbon dioxide occurring while wearing a mask is scientifically proven in many studies,” write the German authors. “Fresh air has around 0.04% CO2,” they observe, while chronic exposure at CO2 levels of 0.3 percent is “toxic.” How much CO2 do mask-wearers breathe in? The authors write that “masks bear a possible chronic exposure to low level carbon dioxide of 1.41–3.2% CO2 of the inhaled air in reliable human experiments.”
In other words, while eight times the normal level of carbon dioxide is toxic, research suggests that mask-wearers (specifically those who wear masks for more than 5 minutes at a time) are breathing in 35 to 80 times normal levels.
The German study, a scoping review of existing research, aimed “to investigate the toxicological effects of face masks in terms of CO2 rebreathing on developing life, specifically for pregnant women, children, and adolescents.” The latter two groups, of course, have been among those most frequently subjected to mask mandates in schools, despite Covid’s low levels of risk for them and the evidence that masks don’t work.
Gee, who could’ve known that the shitlibs were right all along? That CO2—THE SILENT KILLER!!!™—would ultimately prove to be the death of us all? Or that, of course and as usual, it would prove to be WOMEN AND CHILDREN HARDEST HIT™ once more?
Setting aside my sarcastic glee for the nonce, there’s plenty more sciencey-type stuff to the article, which is well worth a read. Don’t tell any of your Karen friends about it, though; it’s long been my contention that, from here on out, panic-ninnies going about in public wearing the accursed things—ie, people who aren’t on-the-job doctors, nurses, and/or EMTs—will be effectively marking themselves out as likely targets when/if the shooting starts.
“Anybody surprised by this?”
I’m shocked, just shocked I tells ya.
I’ve told people from day one that not only is the human lung incapable of providing enough power to push air through a filter capable of filtering out airborne virus*, the damn masks are hazardous to your health as they not only increase the CO2 levels you’re breathing, but they become nasty contaminated face diapers if not changed very frequently, like every 30 minutes or so.
*thus the mask you wear cannot filter a virus. One that can would not allow you to breathe, which is even more hazardous than a virus.
1) It’s pure unscientific bullshit, but feel free to source all the studies showing how surgeons, OR nurses, and techs have been dropping like flies for the last century or more, or have ever been even slightly inconvenienced, let alone harmed, dated from any time before 2019.
That would be zero, ever.
It’s not even a thing, and never has been, from a population far more scrupulously compliant with masking than Average Joe would be in a hundred lifetimes.
Give a holler when “plastic lung” ranks up there with Black Lung Disease. No pun intended, but I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
2) Most people were never wearing plasticized surgical masks, but rather cotton t-shirt face diapers or bandanas.
3) They also weren’t wearing them for more than 1/2 hour at a time, nor properly pretty much ever. (I lost track of how many Face-diaper Fuck-up Fails I counted in any given day while out and about, for years.)
I get that this tickles everyone’s confirmation bias with an entire Sioux warbonnet of feathers, but factually it’s still pure undiluted horseshit.
Surgical masks and face diapers aren’t intended nor designed to “filter out airborne virus”, they’re designed to keep the snot particles containing viral load in, something which actual science has demonstrated they do at between 100x and 1000x better than wearing nothing, for actual coughs and sneezes, at a measured distance of 6′.
Respiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks | Nature Medicine
The masking policies were, are, and ever shall be utterly asinine, and it was never going to work, exactly as predicted, because people are jackasses, as documented by only all of human history since anyone started writing it down.
You think masking policies were and are idiotic?
You think people still wearing them outside, alone, on a clear sunny day, or driving solo in their own cars are jackasses of the first rank, and people who want kids to wear them all day in school are just a bunch of kleine Nazis trying to program kids for tolerating future jackbooted thuggery, in between tranny story hours?
I’ll subscribe to your newsletter and march in your parade.
Stick to that reality, and leave junk science like this cow-plop of the same ilk that “proves” global warming, Bigfoot, and interstellar aliens right where it belongs: in the diaper pail of history.
Raconteur Report: Aliens Cause Global Warming by Michael Crichton
Chocolate-dipped bullshit is still bullshit.
They don’t wear them constantly and are constantly replacing them with new ones after each use.
Masks do not work to stop a respiratory airborne virus.
That you don’t accept this and can write a mini-pamphlet full of irrelvancies that starts with an argument answerable within 30 seconds of reading the first line is seriously strange.
I read enough of that linked study to determine it’s like all the other studies suggesting a mask will inhibit the transmission of airborne virus. It’s faulty to a very large degree.
Every large study conducted has shown that no matter the level of masking compliance the transmission of covid was unimpeded.
Which demonstrates the utter folly of the policies, because no one wears masks 24/7/365, a point all those “studies” conveniently forget to account for.
When such “studies” leave a fallacious hole in methodology big enough to drive a truck through, what else would you expect to happen?
Yet again, it’s like writing a study (or 100 of them) that begins: “No matter how much pilots wear parachutes, their planes still crash. Therefore, parachutes don’t work.”
This is whack-a-mole for ‘tards.
And COVID isn’t “airborne”.
Like “vaccine”, the scientific definition for “airborne” transmission was changed because of COVID, in order to foist masking and vaxx policies, not because the virus meets the criteria for “airborne transmission” that was used until 2020.
Some of us weren’t born yesterday, and know the difference between sh*t and Shineola, even when the CDC tries to re-write definitions.
“And COVID isn’t “airborne”.”
Source for this?
I will disagree. Covid is an airborne transmitted virus.
There are numerous sources for this.
Water droplets laced with virus do not remain floating above the ground for 10+ minutes.
Tuberculosis bacteria, OTOH, do.
The “sources” to which you refer are all, to a metaphysical certainty, the exact clusterfornicated “authorities” who changed the definition of “airborne transmission” to justify masking policies in the first place.
If it were an airborne virus, the only acceptable masking for everyone out and about would have been N95s, at minimum, and Level A encapsulating suits for HCWs.
You literally make our point. Of course it was an airborne spread virus and therefore the N95s, properly fitted, replaced every 30 minutes and disposed of as medical waste was the only possible way to affect spread.
You work the bass ackwards way. You ASSUME they weren’t lying about it being airborne spread.
THEY WERE LYING.
Masks don’t work for an airborne spread virus.
It’s a Novel Respiratory Coronavirus. They are airborne spread. This was not TB and did NOT spread that way.
The people YOU cite are Lying Liars that Lie about everything.
TB is airborne.
You could look it up.
That you don’t understand something this basic is why you fail.
I meant that this was not Typhoid. Sorry.
I studied math and physics extensively. This particular virus is airborne. All airborne virus that I’m aware of can also be spread through droplets.
Masks will stop liquid as long as it’s not a cough or a sneeze, both of which will displace any mask not held tightly to the face which is simply impossible to do given the “physics”:
A normal sneeze generates anywhere from 1 to 2.5 psi of pressure, while a person trying to hold the sneeze may generate up to 5 psi. A typical mask may have a 3×5 in area of pressure face, or 15 sq inches. 15 square inches at 2.5 psi means the face mask is getting pushed outward with a force of 37.5 pounds. Tie your mask down with that amount of force and see how your face feels. You cannot wear a mask this way.
Coughs and sneezes blow out of the mask spreading any droplet born virus in a different direction, but the virus is out.
So, a mask is not going to help stop droplet spread virus either, as any review of the evidence shows.
Masks don’t work for this virus. Everything stated makes no difference to the virus that is spread through the air as this one is, or even through droplet spread as some no doubt occurs.
A mask *may* help the wearer avoid a non airborne virus, something spread exclusively in droplets like blood or saliva. It will not stop the infected from spreading them however.
Cleverly, epidemiology has a name for the necessary precautions for diseases which spread through droplets.
♫One of these things is not like the other one…♫
(Do a Wayback search, and see how TPTB jacked around the long-accepted definitions of droplet vs. airborne tranmission with COVID.)
Droplets may indeed leak out around the edges of a simple mask. What they don’t do is travel more than 6′ away, which was the exact standard tested in the study I’ve cited, in vain, because of people too smart to read facts before making up their minds.
The standard for the study was 6′, because that was the social distancing standard most of the world had enacted.
Masks (simple and surgical) catch the bulk of outbound virus-laden droplets (which COVID is spread by), which is what they’re there for, when worn properly.
They do so at a measured efficiency of between 99% and 99.9% improvement over nothing. (People who read the study knew this when they saw results from measured expelled virus loads go from 10² and 10³ down to values of 10°, checked at a distance of 6′. QED) Period.
Unfortunately, the minute anyone starts talking about simple or surgical masks helping the wearer (which they’re NEVER been made nor intended to do since Ever!), they’ve pulled their pants down, and revealed their fundamental ignorance in the discussion.
The point of masking with basic masks is to keep your snot droplets in your space, rather than launching them outwards 20′-30′ at 200-500MPH with every cough and sneeze.
They were never intended to protect the wearer from anyone else. Only idiots think otherwise. They’re to protect everyone else from the wearer. [Pro Tip: Surgeons aren’t wearing masks to protect themselves from the patient in surgery. It’s the other way around. Since Germ Theory was recognized as a thing.]
That literally Lesson One in mask use still has to be re-iterated 3½ years into (and out the other side of) the pandemic illustrates why expecting basic common sense from the general population was like expecting monkeys to do calculus with a slide rule. In Latin.
Couple that with the inability of Joe Anyone to put even simple cotton masks over their pieholes and noses correctly, and not finger-bang everything within reach 2000x/day 24/7/365, and expecting masks to help anything was an idea conceived by retards lacking the most fundamental grasp of human nature or real-world truth.
This is why the Control Freak Party embraced it like a piglet suckling on a sow’s teat, and couldn’t unlatch even if you’d used a cattle prod on them.
If they were using masking for actual success, they’d have had to mandate a steel mesh covering, and bolting them to people’s faces with safety-wired bone screws, but even Fauci levels of jackassery knew that would never fly.
So they kept the kabuki theater of masks (exactly like temperature screening for a virus where 50% of the infected don’t get a fever, thus ensuring transmission by the afebrile, rather than preventing it), or keeping fat-assed welfare queens rummaging through your luggage and fondling your crotch, as if they’d ever catch an actual terrorist at the airport (like they haven’t done once, since ever in recorded history), knowing it could never work, just to keep jerking themselves off and preening about how they were “doing something”.
Yap about that all you want; it was asinine to the nth degree, and purely control freakery.
But stop trying to try contort and shoehorn scientific reality into servicing confirmation biases. This is just Globull Warmist
ScienceReligion Bullshit, when it’s done by the Right Wing.
It isn’t going to work, because it’s like trying to fly a train to Hawaii; that’s no matter how hard you stoke the boiler, it’ll never get off the ground.
You still don’t get it.
If a mask could stop a virus 100x smaller than the thread gaps then in places that had stricter mask rules would have an effect on spread.
They didn’t. The first study I saw from a University showed that prior to spread and post mask spread in the same location, and they tested at least 20 separate locations, showed no consistent change. The statistical analysis showed no significant effect either way. It was totally random.
The other studies were the real world. FL had no more problems than Mask States like NY and Sturgis, the Superspreader Event, had no significant difference either.
Masks don’t stop an airborne virus like Covid.
Plus, it says it right on the box.
“Plus, it says it right on the box.”
And on the websites, etc. I used to tell people that were arguing for the mask this and it was a conversation shut down as they scurried off to discover the truth.
Boilerplate on the box is what happens when you get your medical information from lawyers and salesmen.
“It must be true; I read it on the package.”
You still don’t get it:
COVID virus doesn’t fly around dry, like powdered cocoa shot from a gun.
It leaves as aerosolized droplets, many times larger than bare bacteria, let alone virus, suspended in mucus and water, and as such, is impeded quite reliably by anything interposed between the spreader’s snotlocker, and the outside world.
T-shirt cotton, and simple surgical masks, for but two examples, both decreased viral escape by between 100x and 1000x better than nothing at a 6′ range, measured by a viral particle counter and using people who actually had COVID coughing and sneezing as test subjects.
Make you a deal:
We’ll stand 6′ apart. We each get a full Supersoaker of colored dye in water.
Mine has nothing whatsoever on the muzzle.
Yours gets a cotton face diaper fastened over the hole.
Whoever has more dye on them after we expend the payloads at each other loses the argument.
That’s your fantasy.
There is no credible that indicated it wasn’t airborne spread.
“Make you a deal:”
Your repeating the same bullshit doesn’t make it any less bullshit.
If people spitting on each other is the problem, masks will help. Infected people not spitting on one another still spread airborne virus, which is why we have major epidemics throughout history.
Masks don’t work. All the BS on this planet doesn’t change that fact. If they did we could eradicate the common cold in one season.
“Masks don’t work. All the BS on this planet doesn’t change that fact. If they did, we could eradicate the common cold in one season.”
How many cases of annual flu were there in the U.S. in 2020-2021, compared to any average flu season in the last half-century?
I’ll wait while you flail about trying to avoid that 800# gorilla.
Thanks for playing. There should be some lovely consolation prizes for you.
Masks work as designed. Always have.
People are idiots.
That’s why masking policies didn’t work, and never could.
It’s the same reason automobile accidents and deaths will never be zero: the problem isn’t under the hood, it’s the loose nut behind the steering wheel.
Save your pointless carping about masks, for actual scorn for people who promulgated a doomed and hopeless policy knowing not only that it wouldn’t work, but that it would actually make everything worse, not just medically, but economically, socially, politically, ad infinitum, and did it anyways. Than doubled down on it.
“How many cases of annual flu were there in the U.S. in 2020-2021, compared to any average flu season in the last half-century?”
How do you know how many cases there are in any year? How do you know how many cases there were among people that were NOT going to a doctor’s office.
You are, by this, suggesting masks stopped the flu. A joke.
“I’ll wait while you flail about trying to avoid that 800# gorilla.”
Your wait is over because I know you cannot tell us how many flu cases there are in any year, you can only repeat the derived numbers from the CDC. There is the gorilla and he weighs considerably more than 800 pounds.
Thanks for playing. There should be some lovely consolation prizes for you.
“Masks work as designed. Always have.”
And they were never expected to stop airborne virus, so the statement is true. It does not support your argument that masks stop the spread of virus, for which there is zero evidence. ZERO. And we know why.
“People are idiots.”
Yea, some are. They lock theirselves into a position and stay there when every bit of evidence is the opposite of their opinion.
Mask do no not work in the context of this discussion. They work as designed to stop bacterial transmission from the surgeon and staff to the patient in an operating room, for example. No one expects the mask to stop a flu or cold virus in the same situation, because it will not.
Was the mask policy “doomed and hopeless“? Of course it was. It was based on the absolute LIE that a mask would protect anyone from the chinaVirus, not to mention the failed methodology of mask type and mask use.
Fauci and the CDC and all the others in the “Expert” Government “Healthcare” arena forever said Masks Don’t Work. FraudXi even repeaated that in Feb 2020.
Then they decided Masks Everywhere kept the Panic going Strong and did a 180 turn on the Science that had been known forever.
Aesop is just stubbornly refusing to admit he was hoodwinked and will go to his grave being wrong. I’m finished trying to convince the mentally wounded.
Just don’t expect me to ever wear a mask again.
Don’t have the link but PJ media also reported that the flu vax’s are now being studied to use the MRNA process. Yep, no flu vax in 2 years and now for sure never again. I will die a pureblood.
I had been getting the flu vaccine for over a decade. But I skipped last year and the year before because I was afraid they were going to slip in the “boosters”.
None for me either.
I’ve never gotten the flu vaccine, mainly because it’s not very effective and the flu has been just a bad cold for me in the past. I don’t even recall getting the flu until about age 60 or so. Subject to change as I get more “experienced” 🙂
Definitely no flu vaccine for me. I wouldn’t trust the medical/pharmaceutical profession as far as I could throw a 10000 pound weight.
Yes, I guess it’s more than that for me as well. I got the flu shots because my company paid for them in my healthcare coverage and encouraged us to get them. I had no reason not to trust them. As to effectiveness, they might or might not have worked. I usually get a cold each season but not the flu. So who knows back then how they worked.
NOW I have very little belief that they do work, and then when they started mandates well after the Vaxxes were proven ineffective, I don’t trust them AT all not to try to slip in the VAXX into the flu shots without telling us.
We’re not gonna take it. NO, we ain’t gonna take it!
This years’ shot was standard quadrivalent killed virus. No mRNA.
There is zero guarantee they won’t screw with future iterations, including next fall’s formula.
As for the effectiveness of the shots, it varies year to year, because of the SWAG they use to decide which way to jump the four (formerly three) constituent components.
In a good year, they may come up with a vaccine which protects the recipient from 90% of the 600 strains loose in the US in any given year. (That means even then, 60 strains will get through and the vaccine is ineffective.)
In a bad year, it has an effectiveness of 10%, and 540 out of 600 strains will laugh at the flu vaccine the way roaches laugh at some versions of insecticide.
Screwing around with mRNA components in the mix is a great way to ensure that 40% of the country – or more – refuses it (wisely) for life.
But if you want people dropping dead from mRNA complications, you can keep people dropping like flies from mRNA complications.
I’ll pass, thanks.
Understood. The real question is how many years do they get it right, say at least 50% effective. I’m having difficulty finding data on that, but I do know the best years seem to be between 50-60% effective. Which is not very good IMO.
The medical community has been as corrupted as other institutions and is not to be trusted as you point out with the “I’ll pass” statement. I will also continue passing on the flu vaccine, at least until I turn 90. I may consider it then 🙂
There’s no single table I know of, but the info is published regularly in in MMWRs every year. Somebody could dig it out, but apparently it’s not worth the trouble to anyone AFAIK.
One year there was no shot: they fucked up in the lab, and the entire year’s vaccine batches were all ruined.
Worst year I recollect was <10%, best was about 90%.
Average in the middle.
Most years, you might get exposed to two or three of 600+ varieties flying around.
So the shot means you get sick one time, instead of all three.
Anyone “in the biz”, as I am, gets potentially exposed 10-50X/day, 150+ days a year.
Even K-3 teachers only see the same batch of kids every day, and everyone’s brat are the world’s worst petrie dishes of disease, bar none, since babies were invented.
So it’s kind of a bigger deal, at least to me.
But nothing is worthing playing Polish Roulette (one bullet, in a magazine-fed pistol) with mRNA tech, which simply kills people, and fucks with your DNA for life.
Most people get the flu once in a year with the immune system able to reject the other variations. I assume the flu shot does the same thing. My dad (94) has gotten the flu shots for years now and I think it helps him. My sister is exposed like you and gets them as well. OTOH, I know several nurses that refused the flu shot and the hospital makes them wear a mask, which is simply for punishment as it will no more stop the flu than the chinaVirus.
I don’t get them because I am blessed with a very robust immune system. I didn’t even know what a cold was before age 50, maybe 55. I know I got them as a child, but they were mild and I really don’t remember them. The only thing I remember is the ear infections. I did get those and my sons who are also blessed with strong immune systems got the ear infections as well. Never needed tubes however. They would clear up with antibiotics.
The mask is, indeed, punishment, and kabuki theater, but if someone unvaccinated with the flu shot comes to work sick, it greatly diminishes the likelihood they’ll infect unvaccinated patients.
But then again, so would kicking employees out and sending them home for coming to work sick in the first place.
But that would require confrontation, whereas harassing refuseniks with mask wear is a better fit for the passive-aggressive Karens who invariably populate Infectious Disease and Risk Management like flies of cow plop.
Clever readers will spot a trend here.
“…it greatly diminishes the likelihood they’ll infect unvaccinated patients.”
No, it doesn’t. There is no proof of this. None.
“Vaccinated” vs “Unvaccinated”. He still buys THIS canard, despite tehm admitting it’s a farce.
We know that people who had the Vaxxes could get WuFlu, give WuFlu and die from WuFlu.
It wasn’t a Vaccine and everybody is actually Unvaccinated.
I think, in this case, Aesop is talking the flu vaccine, not the china/fauciVirus.
Since WuFlu was Just The Flu.
Not exactly the same. The flu vaccine is a “normal” vaccine and was effective to some degree. It does have potential side effects as do all medicines.
Vs the experimental, quite possibly harm intended, chinaVirus nonVax that does little to nothing and has severe side effects.
Of course masks do nothing for either.
The problem is trying to develop a vaccine against a respiratory virus like the common cold and flu.
It mutates too fast. Conventional and mRNA are doomed to fail. Both will be somewhat effective (50%? Who knows?) as a preventative for immune systems that are in generally good shape but marginally weakened. That will fade quickly as it quickly mutates and the “vaccines” are 0% effective.
The thing about the mRNA is that it could have very bad side effects that may cause Death. The flu shot won’t.
I worry they will slip in the MRNA into the general flu shots. The only thing that might prevent this is that many (most?) people have a bad reaction to the MRNA and feel various levels of sick if they get it. usually the flu shot is a day of some pain where the needle went in.
Sure, the flu vaccine is an educated guess, with varying degree’s of success.
Shooting people up with MRNA is simply evil. Evil because it has not been shown safe or effective, or,
Evil because they knew it would kill people and cause other problems.
They didn’t count on the large control group that refused to take the shit, which exposes their evilness.
The Vaxxes are similarly an “educated guess” in that the RNA is similar to the last known strains.
Heh, well evil prevails in the MRNA shot, no guessing required…
How would YOU know what was in the shot this year? Because they told you that?
They’re Lying Liars about everything and cannot be trusted with even the simplest things now.
No, you’re right, Kenny.
Everyone everywhere in every pharmaceutical company is all in on the conspiracy, and kept the secret that mRNA, which is still an immature technology, was secretly slipped into the shot last year.
This is how millions of people have kept the lid on where they load airliners with the chemicals in chemtrails without anyone ever letting the cat out of the bag, or seeing the millions of gallons of chemicals necessary being transferred every single day.
You keep forgetting that they’re proud of their mRNA Frankenstein, and want to cock-a-doodle-doo about it every chance they get, as well as the fact that any decent university lab could uncover the truth in a couple of weeks, and blab it on the internet in microseconds.
The reality is, last year they simply had neither the time nor resources to jack the shots up, They were already in progress months earlier.
Going forward, they’re telling you outright they’re working on getting that shit in the pipeline, and they want dotGov’s full approval for doing it.
Then they’re bulletproof going forward forever, just like with zero-liability experimental COVID death jabs.
99.9% of the people working anywhere would know what the final mfg, which is often done overseas, actually.putninto anything.
The ChiCom mfg were lacing baby milk with poison to cut costs.
When a society goes from high trust to low trust it sucks.
You have no idea how much places like Low Trust PRC have screwed places like Hong Kong.
I have extensive experience with what Chicomia does 24/7/365.
But if you’re going to rant and babble with the Jab version of chemtrails, stay coherent. You can’t go from Evil Genius Masterplan to Malign Incompetence to prove your point with a flick of the wrist.
Pick a horse and ride it, and stop trying to change arguments midstream. 😉
You’re aware of the mRNA being pumped into anything because they’re telling you they want to do exactly that.
Focus, man. Focus.
Leave the tinfoil millinery behind, and embrace the obvious.
IOW, they’re telling you outright they want to kill you, and they don’t care if you know.
Why add ludicrous double mumbo-jumbo complications, rather than simply believing that they meant just what they said?
FraudXi deliberately called Ivermection and HZQ as being deadly to stop proper treatments.
It’s not a Conspiracy. It’s The News, at this point.