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Lather, rinse, repeat until dead

Get those heads in the sand and those hands over the ears, liberal ostriches:

Now the first batch (of Saddam Hussein’s secret documents – ed) is out, and though few in number, they’re loaded with information.

Among the enduring myths of those who oppose the war is that Saddam, though murderous when it came to his own people, had no weapons of mass destruction and no terrorist designs outside his own country. Both claims now lie in tatters.

Here, for instance, are the marching orders for Directorate 8, the Mukhabarat’s “Technical Affairs” department: “The Eight Directorate is responsible for development of materials needed for covert offensive operations. It contains advanced laboratories for testing and production of weapons, poisons and explosives.”

It goes on. Directorate 9, we discover, “is one of the most important directorates in the Mukhabarat. Most of its work is outside Iraq in coordination with other directorates, focusing on operations of sabotage and assassination.”

The document also discusses the Mukhabarat’s Office 16, set up to train “agents for clandestine operations abroad.” The document helpfully adds that “special six-week courses in the use of of terror techniques are provided at a camp in Radwaniyhah.”

Got that? Terror techniques.

Get that? Of course not; they never will. They’ll see to that themselves. But hey, the Great Wall of Denial is a big part of life among the “reality”-based.

Don’t fret, kids, this means nothing, and neither does the rest of the growing mountain of proof that Saddam’s reign of terror should have been ended a decade or more ago. There was no threat, there were no WMDs, Saddam’s regime did not support terrorism, and the Bushitler’s illegal war on the happy, kite-flying children of Iraq was the greatest crime against humanity ever committed, and we know all that because…well, just because. Now go back to sleep, elect more Appease-ocrats, and wait for the next 9/11 to wake you all up (however briefly) again.

(Via Insty)

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31 thoughts on “Lather, rinse, repeat until dead

  1. No! Never! Saddam’s secret service would never do that! Those research labs were for, uh, developing advanced kite-flying techniques! And the chemicals? He was working on a cure for the common cold! That’s how much of a humanitarian he is!

    And now you evil fascist right wing corporate shills torture this poor man in order to cause Halliburton stock to rise!

    You’re evil!

  2. No matter how much information comes out to support the case for war, the dimmicrats/lefties will continue to shriek incoherently. After all, Iraq was better off 3 years ago. A virtual utopia offering no threat to our homeland. Ya, right. soddom insane was a moderate just like assinpajamas from iran.

  3. And that is the one true scandal involving a President Bush and Saddam: that the first one failed to crush him when he had the chance.

  4. Um, you might want to look a little more closely. The stuff you quote as if it were from Saddam’s archives was actually pulled off the web site of the Federation of American Scientists, where it’s been sitting since at least 1997.

    You can check this out yourselves. Here is the document hyped by Investors Business Daily as posted on the Foreign Military Studies web site:

    http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents-docex/Iraq/CMPC-2003-006430.pdf

    After you scroll past the first page of Arabic script, you come to this document from the web site of the American Federation of Scientists:

    http://fas.org/irp/world/iraq/mukhabarat/org.htm

    What the Arabic proves is anybody’s guess, since it isn’t translated. But the quotes you think “prove” something are not from Saddam’s archives, but from the FAS. If you read the FAS report you’ll see it was compiled from several sources, mostly unclassified. It contains information floated around in the West in 1997.

    Now, who’s the ostrich, dear?

  5. You, maha.

    You don’t/won’t understand how war by proxy has been used by the totalitarians against the west for decades, how Saddam neatly, easily, fits into that equation, and how that can no longer be tolerated.

    Go back to sleep in your 9/10/01 world, where terrorists and the countries that support them are far away, and don’t actually mean it when they say “Death to America! Death to the crusader! Death to the infidel!”

    Please, slip back into the sweet world, and dream your dream. We’ll deal with the shadowy forms just beyond the campfire.

    Someone here has to be the grown-up, and you, maha, just aren’t suited for that role. Sleep tight, don’t let the bedbugs bite.

  6. Umm, you are, dear, for refusing to take more than a decade’s worth of Saddam’s threats against the US, his proven support for Islamist terrorism, and defiance of our cease-fire agreement with him seriously in the post-9/11 age. If Investor’s Business Daily got it wrong, I’m sure they’ll acknowledge it. And if they do, I’ll be happy to acknowledge it myself here. But that alters the accuracy of describing as “ostriches” people who think they can turn back the clock to 9/10 merely by wishing it were so not one whit.

  7. So even after I prove your source is bogus, all you can do is insult me. Snort.

    You should thank me. I’m trying to expose the truth about the Bushies to keep you free from tyranny. Whether you like it or not.

  8. As I’ve said before in other contexts: I’m not interested in debating you, I’m interested in defeating you. So go ahead and encourage the Dems to run on wishful thinking, assuming the good intentions of terrorist-sponsoring dictators like Saddam, and a return to the fugue-state dream of 9/10, and I’ll go ahead and encourage my side to run on hardnosed evaluation of states and other, looser aggregations of people who openly declare their enmity for us, preemptive self-defense, and a determination never to forget the lessons of 9/11 (which your side has never learned, much less forgotten), and we’ll see who wins in ’08. If you think that’s an insult, well, I’m just sorry as all hell, but the truth is I just don’t care much about “getting along” with liberals anymore.

  9. Mike, they’ve had the example of “Mein Kampf” and they still don’t get it. Acknowledging that would lead to acknowledging a long road ahead before the situation is dealt with. And that’s hard, and uncomfortable, and there is a broad, smooth path over here called procrastination, and surely if we put it off it’ll go away, I mean, don’t some letters answer themselves? Anyway, if it stays away long enough, I may be dead by then and someone else can do it.

    maha and Co. are very depressing people, the shirkers.

  10. maha considers these insults?
    What a sensitive plant it is! And how neat to have been listed with Glenn Reynolds and Lorie Byrd.

  11. US releases confiscated prewar Iraqi documents
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Bush administration on Thursday released prewar Iraqi government documents confiscated by U.S. forces, including some it said showed Saddam Hussein’s regime suspected an al Qaeda presence in the country.

    -If Saddam Hussein’s regime only SUSPECTED al Qaeda was present – Saddam the documents strongly suggest that Saddam felt that Al queda’s presense was a security concern and that he had no collaborative relationship with them, why would he want rumors of someone’s presense on Iraqi territory investigated if he had a collaborative relationship with him.

    The source of some of the information, the nameless Afghan informant, said the “consul” learned this information on a trip to Iran. Four days after 9/11, he apparently gets this stunning information from Iranian sources? The same Iran that was Saddam Hussein’s mortal enemy and would go to great lengths to oust him in favor of a friendly Shia government? Remember “Curveball” ? Saddam was no angel, but he wasn’t so bad that America under Reagan sold him weapons through a French front company, and supplied satellite intel. When Congress found out he was using poisonous gas, Cheney and Powell blocked Congrees from imposing sanctions. You might want to read the IAEA reports on Saddams weapons capabilities after Dessert Fox.

    If mere association woth terrorists is the criteria for invading then American allies like Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia should be high on the list just for the sake of consistancy.

  12. And the bold Cpl Pezinski draws out argument #02-637-CH. “If you’re gonna invade one, then you have to invade all – at the same time – or it isn’t right!”

    I’ll be brief: our power is not infinite, we can take care of a lot of things at once – provided, as Steven DenBeste put it, you want those other solutions to all be nuclear.

    Perhaps it wasn’t clear to you that these others may not be quite the same as a threat as some other named nations; perhaps it wasn’t clear to you that there is more in our tool box than just the military, and that it might be more appropriate to approach some of these others with economic, financial, legal, diplomatic, etc. tools than the Big Stick; and perhaps it wasn’t clear to you that this is going to be a long struggle against a totalitarian ideology, the shadow groups it uses, the nations that wage war by these proxies, and the fifth columnists and appeasers around us, and by definition – unless you want it to go nuclear – or jeopardize the flow of oil that the entire industrialized, civilized, semi-civilized, and uncivilized world depends on – this is going to take a long time.

    If that isn’t clear, go to the White House website and search for Preident Bush’s speeches where he said pretty much that, only nicely.

    Twit.

  13. And on it goes, forever.

    Once the associations between Hussein and jihadis are proved, they move the goalposts once more and provide another list of targets “for the sake of consistency”.

    Ever heard of strategical decisions, folks?

  14. No, Fabio, they haven’t heard of strategic decisions. This is their idea of an argument:

    “But you gave Saddam assistance in the 1980’s! How can you fight him now?”

    Those who utter that little bleat shouldn’t be allowed out without a governess nearby to wipe their noses and make sure they don’t touch the stuff the dog left on the sidewalk.

    Well, let’s answer that one. Iraq was fighting Iran. Iraq was a nasty piece of work, but so was Iran. At that time, Iran was more of a threat to the US (see: hostage crisis) so Iraq gets a leg up. That war ends and things change and we find ourselves in a confrontation with Iraq. And this argument pointing out prior US assistance to the Hussein regime is supposed to prove…what?

    That things change? Did anyone else know that the United Kingdom and the Japanese Empire were allied in 1918, and by 1941 they were at war? Twenty-three years later they were fighting. And that in 1918 the Japanese Empire was at war with Germany and by 1941 it was fighting in a loose alliance with it.

    Times change, and decisions have to change. But it seems the critics never take into account that the Iraq-Iran war was from 1980 to 1988, or in other words it started 26 years ago. The “reality based” refuse to accept reality. What a surprise.

    Twits, all of them.

  15. Wow, Mikey, foam at the mouth much? I’m not a frequenter of the wing-nut blogs–read your bloviating and must tell you, it was not an educational experience.

  16. Sigh. You’d think these losers could at least come up with some original insults to make their dreary little comments more interesting; not to mention giving us some reason to give a mouse’s fart whether or not they had “an educational experience”. Here’s a thought, humjob – if you’re looking for an educational experience, try finishing grade school.

  17. “I’m not a frequenter of the wing-nut blogs…”

    Oh boy! Here we go again! Another drive-by commenter! Let me tell you, you think I’m foaming at the mouth? Slide by DU or Kos (or check out some of the comments at LGF or the Rottweiler).
    Compared to those folks I have liquid nitrogen in my veins and am practically Chesterfieldian in my discourse.

    I’m sorry you weren’t able to learn anything here, but I’ll keep commenting and posting, and if you keep at it, eventually you’ll be able to comprehend English words of over one syllable.

    Just keep reaching for those stars, baby. I have faith in you.

  18. As a service to those who are new here, Lynn, let me tell you that your spleen has been processed and is available for pick-up at the Lost Organ Counter at the end of aisle three.

    No, happy to have helped, please come again. 🙂

  19. So Maha made some really good points above about how the article you are so impressed by doesn’t actually reference the Iraqi archives, but rather an AFS article circa 1997-unclasified and written by a bunch of Americans. Are you going to actually address this or are you merely a wannabe Dr. Goebbels like so many other of you ‘wing-nut’ blogging compatriots.

  20. Yeah, stupid liberals – from that very biased Times article:

    the “largest air assault since 2003” in Iraq using over 50 helicopters to put 1500 Iraqi and U.S. troops on the ground had netted 48 suspected insurgents, 17 of which had already been cleared and released.

    With the Interior Ministry’s Samarra commando battalion, the soldiers had found some 300 individual pieces of weaponry like mortars, rockets and plastic explosives in six different locations inside the sparsely populated farming community of over 50 square miles and about 1,500 residents. The raids also uncovered high-powered cordless telephones used as detonators in homemade bombs, medical supplies and insurgent training manuals.

    Just because some moron reporter at the ultra-liberal Time wants to pretend this isn’t a successful operation doesn’t mean it isn’t one.

    And please don’t use the Thyme hippies as a source; trying to parse that poorly written drivel gives me a headache.

  21. But Joe, by liberal “logic,” none of that weaponry had any provable connection to al Qaeda, had nothing to do with 9/11, and therefore means nothing. In fact, since I’ve used the word “nothing” twice already, it means that they found nothing. So there. My mind is now officially made up and closed on the subject, in a way satisfactory to my pre-existing belief that Bush is evil, and that’s that. I just proved you wrong.

    Debate that, Wingnutz™!

  22. Actually I have a question for the usual suspects.

    What is your metric? What would convince you that a relation (albeit loose, but no less lethal) between Hussein and al-Quaida did exist?

    Who would you entrust with the translation of the captured documents (and accept the results of the translation, whatever they are)?

    Come on, convince me that you’re standing on solid ground.

  23. Wow ! What a find !

    3 years on and 2300+ US dead, no actual WMDs…but a memo ! It’s even better, its mostly a copy of an excerpt from FAS web site circa 1997 ! I am sure all you Arabists have translated the original text- or are you just echoing all the other fools that fell for this one

    You guys are just superb- no wonder you were all so eager to not sign up and let someone else fight your war, but now this- a memo !. What next- a Christmas Card from Bin Laden ? You would probably all buy into that too.

    It’s really true, there’s a sucker born every minute, and, boy, is this site evidence.

  24. Dumbasses. Idealogical Conservatives, You guys are the Igor’s of the conservative moment. “My master has awakened and now you liberals will be sorry that you spoke against him.”

    Too dumb to figure out that the Bush/Rove lies are only meant for you. Do you really think that they would try to pas this propoganda off to intelligent Americans.

    Too inbred to even question authority., you serfs don’t even have the first clue what true conservatism is – you are “good Germans” though. Your masters told you that God wants it that way. Dumb basses in the dumb bass pond.

    Some of you must be getting money, ala Armstrong Williams, to be profeesional liars but, if your not being paid off and you have an IQ above 100, why would you get so much pleasure from being lied to. Oh, that’s right, when your an inbred serf you only get 1 pleasure in life, right, that you’ll go to heaven and the rest of us will go to hell.

    I know, I know, the IncompetentCorruptAmericanPrince is going to be really pissed when he awakens. Let’s chant the evoction together – ” 9/11 changed everything, 9/11 changed everything, 9/11 changed everything”.

    There – don’t you feel better. Rest now Igor. It won’t be long before God has his vengeance – only then, will the liberals regret doughting your master. God, who made the ICAP dumb and rich and made you dumb and poor will be pleased. ( I know, your not poor, your making 90k/yr)

    Dumbass ideological conservatives.

    BTW. When you realize that Osama’s great-great grand children nor the ICAP’s great-great grand children will ever have to work a day in there lives, then maybe you’ll begin to understand true conservatism. How about your children, grand children, great grands – hahaha – oh that’s right you don’t have to worry about them – the rapture and all.

    Dumbass Ideological conservatives.

  25. And dipshits come to the thread late.

    yawn

    It is late and I must sleep. Go read the archives for entertainment, Lya whatever,and Nicolo what’s-your-face.

    The ground you raise has been gone over time and again, and yet you still raise your loser heads. Nighty-night, don’t ever change.

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