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Other shoe, dropping

April 1st, 2008

It’s long been said that the first black President will not be a liberal but a conservative. Here’s why:

Just as the dust surrounding Sen. Barack Obama’s long-term association with controversial minister Rev. Jeremiah Wright has begun to settle comes new reports of the democratic presidential hopeful’s connection to another racially divisive public figure—the stridently homophobic Rev. James T. Meeks, an Illinois state senator who also serves as the pastor of Chicago’s 22,000 member strong Salem Baptist Church.
Described in a 2004 Chicago Sun Times article as someone Barack Obama regularly seeks out for “spiritual counsel”, James Meeks, who will serve as an Obama delegate at the 2008 Democratic convention in Denver, is a long-time political ally to the democratic frontrunner.

…The problem for Obama is that Rev. James Meeks, like Rev. Jeremiah Wright, preaches a message that appears to be directly at odds with the promise of hope, unity and bridging social, racial and political divisions upon which his campaign is built.

Some choice quotes from this newly-exposed Obama confidant, adviser, and aide:

“We don’t have slave masters. We got mayors. But they still the same white people who are presiding over systems where black people are not able, or to be educated.”

“You got some preachers that are house niggers. You got some elected officials that are house niggers. And rather than them trying to break this up, they gonna fight you to protect this white man,” Meeks said in a sermon tape which he later defended in an interview with Chicago CBS2 reporter, Mike Flannery.

Plenty more hate and self-pity available, including video, at the link. As I’ve said, this won’t hurt Obama with too many Democrats, who are mostly in agreement with this bigoted tripe. But if it doesn’t hurt him with the public at large, we’re pretty much done for. And that’s why the first black President won’t be a liberal: because any left-leaning black politician you could name is more likely than not to have a similar years-long record of marinating himself in the same sort of cesspool Obama has. If Democrats have blinded themselves to this sort of thing, or managed to contrive ever-more-fantastical means to excuse it for whatever reasons, I’d still hope that most of what you might call mainstream America hasn’t.

(Via Gabes)

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  1. torrentprime
    April 1st, 2008 at 17:54 | #1
    I don't understand why this is some kind of special knock against a Democratic candidate. It's child's play to post hundred of inflammatory statements by conservative ministers (including those who formally endorse GOP candidates who themselves do nothing to distance themselves from them) against gays, feminists, etc. When the right-wing crazy preachers are shrieking that gays caused Katrina and that feminists caused 9/11, doesn't that cause problems?
    No, because a) often, their base believes their religious leaders' tripe, as you mention and b) people are used to their religious leaders saying batshit crazy things.

    And all of the tut-tutting about how America shouldn't let those wacky black racists get away with their talking applies equally to conservative voters cheerfully letting their preachers get away with comparing gays to terrorists (and having terrorists come out on top!) and insisting that it's important to let children bully non-conforming students in order to teach proper gender roles, in addition to hundreds of other disgusting comments. Why don't these people ever get called to account for their crap?
    In other words, to repurpose a sentence:
    If Republicans have blinded themselves to this sort of thing, or managed to contrive ever-more-fantastical means to excuse it for whatever reasons, I’d still hope that most of what you might call mainstream America hasn’t.

  2. Mike James
    April 1st, 2008 at 18:39 | #2
    "Child's play", huh?

    Sez you. If it's that easy, what's stopping you? Back up one assertion you made, please. I'm fairly certain if you do, I'll be able to send back an instance of where someone on our side called them on it. If you were about to bring up the future meal for us Shit Sandwich Republicans, I'll just suggest that John Hagee pissing all over the Catholics or guessing about Katrina sort of falls short of "God damn America", retarded conspiracy theories about AIDS, or trading handjobs with Louis Farrakkkhan. (Damn, my 'KKK' kkkey seems to by stuckkk)

    One doesn't even need to go to so much effort to laugh out loud at the above quoted statement,

    “We don’t have slave masters. We got mayors. But they still the same white people who are presiding over systems where black people are not able, or to be educated.”

    First of all, that tool really doesn't want to find out just how many of our worst, most unliveable cities have African-American mayors and city governments. Remember Chief Moose, I think it was, and the D.C. sniper?

    Education? You'd hate to learn that Barack Obama was editor of the Harvard Law Review, and never, as in not once, contributed an article. I'm not a lawyer, but those I know think that's sort of pathetic. You also don't want to learn just how many African-Americans run the selfsame school systems where the African-American students don't just underperform a little, but a whole big honkin' lot. How the hell did people like my parents, who grew up going to schools with a whole hell of a lot less resources during the Depression, than even a lot of inner-city black-run hellholes, manage to achieve to become literate and numerate? Hint: whining white people were not encouraged to continue to do so, in past decades.

  3. April 1st, 2008 at 20:45 | #3
    Go read the post at Kims Geopoliticus re: Black Mayors, and areas run by their politicians, city workers, etc. My post there reflects appropriately. I've known many sorts of people in my time. There are those who are humans of a darker melanin content, and there are cliches. I hate cliches. There is NO-ONE who cannot rise above their supposed culture, and excel as a human. But those that revel in their subculture disgust me.
  4. Flagwaver
    April 2nd, 2008 at 13:59 | #4
    torrentprime,

    That was half-assed, even by liberal standards. Yes, there are whacko "right wing" preachers out there (but, on the other hand, Fred Phelps is a Democrat, so there you go). As Mike James pointed out, check the press reports about any one of those idiotic statements you alluded to, and you will find plenty of conservative politicians, bloggers and pundits criticizing them for it.

    But even that misses the point. Jeremiah Wright and James Meeks are NOT just some random Black preachers who happened to endorse Obama (cf, Hagee and McCain), and have a history of saying disgusting thngs - they are Barack Obama's personally chosen spiritual advisors (of 20 years' standing, in Wright's case), family preacher (in Wright's case), and members of and advisors to his campaign.

    If you don't see a qualitative difference between the importance of the poison spewed by these two racist hatemongers, and the idiocies of random white/conservative preachers who HAPPEN to endorse or support a particular Republican, then I can only conclude that you are being willfully blind to the obvious. But, then, that's a common occurrence on the Left, innit???

  5. stymphalian bird
    April 2nd, 2008 at 14:56 | #5
    BARACK OBAMA should completly disassocatate himself from JEREMIAH WRIGHT and have nothing more to do with him or his church of hate
  6. April 2nd, 2008 at 20:27 | #6
    But he WON'T. And therein lies the rub.
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