Outrage du jour (with FTR updates)
Bill says it, so I don’t have to.
And yeah, I do also think Hastert oughta resign, for all sorts of reasons. But if you didn’t have a problem with Clinton taking inappropriate sexual advantage of a starry-eyed underling, and thought everyone who screamed about that ought to have been spending a lot more time minding their own business instead, I just don’t see how you can have the hypocritical chutzpah to wax indignant over this one. Well, except as it relates to jockeying for political advantage in the runup to an election, that is — which just makes you a whole lot less impressive as some sort of paragon of sterling moral virtue than you might like to think.
Update! Looks like they’ve already started tripping over their situational ethics. Which I’m quite sure are nothing like seven and a half inches long.
Updated update! Thanks to the domestic political angle, Ace’s most excellent question for vacillating truce-fluffer Bill Frist is at least peripherally related:
I don’t need the goddamned Republican Party in power to sign “peace” deals with terrorists. I can get that easily enough from the Democratic Party. I’ve supported these vacuous, cowardly, inept, corrupt idiots for one reason– to fight terrorists.
If that really is no longer a GOP prirority, then I am no longer a member of the GOP.
If it’s true that Afghanistan can never be won without killing a lot of Afghans, well, I’m sorry, they’ve chosen their own fates.
What I mean is– suppose Frist is right as far as his premise. Does that lead to the conclusion that we capitulate to these mass-butchers?
Or does it lead to a very opposite conclusion?
I’ve spent five years railing against Democrats who want to give peace a chance. I’m supposed to buy into that notion when it’s offered by Bill Frist?
Amen to that. Diddling page-boys is one thing. It’s distasteful, even repellent, but it’s an individual act that has nothing to do with the positions of the party as a whole, and as such ain’t necessarily a deal-breaker for me. Negotiating with terrorists, even contemplating such, is. And good as he’s been on certain other issues (porkbusting comes to mind), Frist’s “clarification” on his inexcusable statement left a whole lot to be desired.
I can’t quite recall when that Third Option got sneaked into the middle of “you’re either with us, or you’re with the terrorists.” But clearly, it did.
Update to the updated update! To the Stone Age, muthafuckas.
Updates, forsooth! At long last, a real-world, practical answer. Dig that platform.
No, I’m not joking. Well, not much.





Who's next?
The Dims can't be allowed to continue to take out conservatives(even if only nominal ones) based on accusations alone. Foley probably broke no laws and didn't diddle anybody that we know of. Hastert didn't know about the IM's from three fuckin years ago. DeLay will be found innocent. I'm tired of the Dim smear machine causing Repub's to resign while Dems (Gerry Studds) doing the exact same thing or worse are lauded as hero's of this or that community. It's repulsive really. It doesn't excuse bad behaviour, but I wish the GOP would grow a backbone. Delay should still be the leader. Hastert should NOT step down. It's akin to freeing Saddam with a "Sorry, see ya next time".
And we'll probably not hear much more either, Pofarmer.
Why?
Because The dems know that the GOP and the public might raise a stink about it...but nothing will ever really be done about it...not even around election time...
But let the GOP start having problems, and every little limp-dicked weenie moonbat liberal and pseudo-conservative-libertarianwannabe naysayer is pissing and shitting themselves silly screaming "Vote tha bums out!"
Um, I'll go for Naysayer, Alex, for $500.
The worst he's accused of (as of the last update I saw) is steamy - and evidently quite consensual - electronic communication.
With someone (as all pages are supposed to be 16, and 16 is the age of consent in DC, and I think in the states the pages in question lived after leaving DC) who he legally could have had sex with.
The way people (especially Democrats) are talking, you'd think he was raping pre-teens. The only real scandal here is the inappropriateness of such actions with pages under his political influence, and that's both handled by his resignation and of no realistic import to the rest of his party.
That is, in a reasonable world, at least.