More, please
Our debate at home must also be fair-minded. One of the hallmarks of a free society and what makes our country strong is that our political leaders can discuss their differences openly, even in times of war. When I made the decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, Congress approved it with strong bipartisan support. I also recognize that some of our fellow citizens and elected officials didn’t support the liberation of Iraq. And that is their right, and I respect it. As President and Commander in Chief, I accept the responsibilities, and the criticisms, and the consequences that come with such a solemn decision.
While it is perfectly legitimate to criticize my decision or the conduct of the war, it is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the history of how that war began. Some Democrats and anti-war critics are now claiming we manipulated the intelligence and misled the American people about why we went to war. These critics are fully aware that a bipartisan Senate investigation found no evidence of political pressure to change the intelligence community’s judgments related to Iraq’s weapons programs. They also know that intelligence agencies from around the world agreed with our assessment of Saddam Hussein. They know the United Nations passed more than a dozen resolutions citing his development and possession of weapons of mass destruction. Many of these critics supported my opponent during the last election, who explained his position to support the resolution in the Congress this way: ‘When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security.’ That’s why more than 100 Democrats in the House and the Senate, who had access to the same intelligence voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power.
The stakes in the global War on Terror are too high, and the national interest is too important, for politicians to throw out false charges. These baseless attacks send the wrong signal to our troops and to an enemy that is questioning America’s will. As our troops fight a ruthless enemy determined to destroy our way of life, they deserve to know that their elected leaders who voted to send them to war continue to stand behind them. Our troops deserve to know that this support will remain firm when the going gets tough. And our troops deserve to know that whatever our differences in Washington, our will is strong, our Nation is united, and we will settle for nothing less than victory.
Mr. President, I’ll say it again: it’s about fucking time. If you’d been pushing back this hard against the liars all along, we wouldn’t have had to waste so much time arguing over questions that were settled long ago, and that victory you speak of would be one hell of a lot closer than it is now. Don’t let up; the rest of us sure haven’t. And we won’t, either.
Update! More here and here. The other quote of the day:
The White House needs to go on the offensive here in a big way—and Bush needs to be very plain that this is all about Democratic politicans pandering to the antiwar base, that it’s deeply dishonest, and that it hurts our troops abroad.
And yes, he should question their patriotism. Because they’re acting unpatriotically.
As Jeff says: plain talk, and the plain truth.
Updated update! Dr Symes says:
This is, hopefully, just a start. For too long, the President’s been absent from the debate. Maybe he thought it was over. After all, it’s been a couple years now. But, of course, anyone watching the news knows it’s never stopped.
The left has continually criticized the U.S. presence in Iraq, undermined the effort and move to build Iraqi democracy because success there would mean they were wrong. The moments of triumph, purple fingers and Constitutions, have shamed them into semi-silence only momentarily.
They won’t stop. And neither should Bush.
Time will tell if this speech was just a one off job. It shouldn’t be. The loony-left needs be combated like the viral infection it is. One time shots won’t permanently suppress it. A steady course of antibiotics, continued long past the point its fever seems broken, is the only prescription.
Bush must follow up on this speech.
He is exactly, precisely right. More please, Mr. President. Immediately wouldn’t be too soon. The libs will jump right in and start repeating their lies more loudly than ever before by way of response, and while their MSM lapdogs have been greatly weakened, theirs is still a fairly loud voice to have to try to shout over. More please, and right now.
Update to the updated update! Good one:
Democrats in Congress today rejected President George Bush’s accusation that they’re trying to rewrite history, which shows they supported the Iraq war based on the same intelligence that drove his decision to send in the troops.
“We had no pre-war intelligence,” said Sen. John Kerry, “History will show that none of the leading Democrats had substantial intelligence. Anyone who remembers what we did then knows that the president is making a baseless allegation. I think history will bear out my contention that we Democrats lacked the intelligence to make such an important decision.”
The junior Senator from Massachussetts said he continues “to faithfully support the troops who uselessly die for a lie in Iraq.”
“Our troops deserve to know that their elected leaders who voted to send them to war will remain firm in our conviction that we didn’t know what we were doing at the time,” Sen. Kerry said. “It’s important, on Veteran’s Day, to remember that our Democrat commitment to our military hasn’t changed.”
It’s funny ’cause it’s true.
Update, forsooth! Via Glenn’s latest update, Tom Bevan has a cogent and concise little history lesson for the dim, the disingenuous, and the brain-dead:
Yes, we now know there were some dissenting opinions in the mix of intelligence, but that only serves to highlight a point that cannot be overstated: our ability to know exactly what Saddam had or didn’t have depended almost exclusively on his willingness to cooperate with the inspection and disarmament process. Everyone, including Hans Blix, knew this and stated it openly and repeatedly, often citing South Africa as the model for full, accurate, and complete disarming of WMD.
The record shows that is not how Saddam behaved.
Not that the LLL’s will listen to a word of it. They’ve lived by the lie, and they’ll die by the lie. The amusing irony is that we wouldn’t know even now that the intelligence was wrong (an assumption, by the way, and one I remain skeptical of, and will be until we know more about Syria’s pre-war role) if we hadn’t removed Saddam. And protest though they might about how they believe Saddam’s ouster to be a good thing but disagree with the method, the only way he would have ever come out would have been in handcuffs and leg irons.
Update to the n
The first victory for the anti-war left took place shortly after 911, when war supporters on the right agreed, however reluctantly, that “dissent is the highest form of patriotism,” and that we should not question anyone’s patriotism (though the left was of course allowed to question the patriotism of “chickenhawks”; which is only fair, because we’re all just a bunch of cowardly jingoistic scumtonguers, anyhow).
But Glenn touches on an important distinction that we should now be willing to embrace: namely, that though the anti-war position is not inherently unpatriotic, those in the anti-war movement who use lies and misinformation to harm the country are — and political opportunism that relies on revisionist history and the leveling of false charges in order to regain power is indicative of (a) mindset that (is) profoundly cynical and profoundly anti-democratic.
Jeff, consider it embraced, buddy. I used to be fairly reticent about throwing out such charges myself, but that was a long time ago – back before I realized that the burden of proof is and ought to be on those who are ignoring the working of the democratic process before the war and are now doing their utmost to make the job of our military as difficult as possible by providing rhetorical aid and comfort to the enemy. That, as far as I’m concerned, is the very epitome of unpatriotic behavior, and I’ll just be damned if I’m going to let such people use our natural reluctance to throw out a charge that would make a true patriot’s blood boil as a screen for their true agenda. If the “unpatriotic” shoe fits, the unpatriotic Left can damned well wear it. Lord knows they’ve spent enough time and energy over the years telling us what jingoistic Neanderthals patriotism makes of us. It’s a bit late for them to start wrapping themselves in the flag now.
Flogging a dead Update! How can you tell when a drunken Democrat is lying? His lips are moving, of course. But not to worry, because it looks like the Bush White House is now serious about countering the Democrats’ lies:
It is regrettable that Senator Kennedy has chosen Veteran’s Day to continue leveling baseless and false attacks that send the wrong signal to our troops and our enemy during a time of war. It is also regrettable that Senator Kennedy has found more time to say negative things about President Bush then he ever did about Saddam Hussein. If America were to follow Senator Kennedy’s foreign policy, Saddam Hussein would not only still be in power, he would be oppressing and occupying Kuwait.
Mercifully, Senator Kennedy will never, ever have the opportunity to set America’s foreign policy. That’s a press release from about an hour ago, and can be found here. Following McClellan’s statement is a brief and very blog-like fisking of the Senate’s leading waste of flabby, cirrhosis-raddled flesh, Ted “Relax, I’ll drive” Kennedy. Very damned encouraging, I must say; it now appears that the White House has taken off the gloves and is ready to get back in the fight. Say it with me, y’all: more, please.





Fuck the elected officials one and all. The people on the ground all over the world doing the hard work on this Veteran's Day "deserve to know" that the few ass-clowns that get their voices heard in the MSM don't speak for the vast majority of us no matter what pours out of their filthy sewers.
"Supporting" the troops means that you belive in not only their safe return home, but in the mission that they have been sent on. Period!
Before that message was sent there was dissension on where "MI" was. Before Nimitz risked the entire striking arm of the Pacific Fleet he wanted to know where - Port Morseby (again) Midway, Hawaii, the west coast, Dutch Harbor, where! Where was the blow to fall? only when he knew beyond a doubt did he send out his carriers to ambush.
There are no guarantees with intelligence, no matter from where. You are actively looking and they are actively hiding. Anyone who thinks that is easy, or that making a choice out of a myriad of possibilities is easy and simple is a fool. The best decision possible was made, with all of the intelligence weighed into every other factor, and still people of good will were at odds.
The Democrats are playing a dangerous game. They had no intelligence and they still decided togo to war? Then they are fools not worthy of being trusted with national defense. The intelligence was there but they didn'tknow they were allowed to see it? Then they are incompetent and shouldn't be let near national defense- they may sit on a bayonet and suffer brain damage.
President Bush has to realize that this is being brought front and center - again and again and again because the Democrats have to cater to the Michael Moore wing while trying to win the center, and only on a cry of "we were tricked" can they reconcile the two, and a cry of "we were tricked" begs the reply "I thought you said he was the idiot?"
No, not an enviable position at all. They will regret taking this tack to hold onto their moonbat base, for the center will not accept that. Keep hammering them, Mr. President. They have given their best shot and missed.
L . I . E .
the second half of that investigation, which is to determine that very fact has NOT been conducted.
He's done.
...and not a moment too soon.
What we need now is to set up some of those prisons we've got in Eastern Europe for our good old MSM liberals here in the US of A. Enough with the fifth column!!
Only, one person is president, and he has to make the decision of what is worse - doing something or waiting. And remember, waiting is a decision, and the threat only grows as you wait. Is it better to strike now, or wait? Will they be stronger, comparitaviely, or weaker?
Zorro would do nothing and then spread the blame for not doing anything, you know - "Bush did nothing to prevent 9/11. And he has not done enough to prevent --/--."
No matter what he does, it is the wrong thing at the wrong time. Thanks, Zorro. You join with General Georges - fighting the wrong war at the wrong time. (Although to be fair to Georges, he had a French bureaucracy to deal with - the worst enemy known to man.)
As an aside, personally I've never found "doing nothing" as a viable option, andbefore Zorro responds, please tell me, post Afghanistan, with the strategic picturelaid out - at that time - what would you have done? Please also note, the US is using police, finance, espionage, etc. means on the 'bad guys', we are not a one trick pony, please - not everything of the response is armored brigades - we've just got them employed now.
Love to hear it.
How lame. You guys got so much nothin'.
"What a sorry, sorry, unfortunate president -- caught in his lies, his half-truths, his reckless disregard ... caught with, well ... caught with time. Time has finally caught up to him. And now he doesn't have the popularity to beat back all the people trying to call him to account. He could; but now he can't. So he's caught. And his best play is to accuse his critics of rewriting history, of playing fast and loose with the truth -- a sad, pathetic man."
[snip]
"In any case, he must sense now that he's blowing into a fierce wind. The judgement of history hangs over this guy like a sharp, heavy knife. His desperation betrays him. He knows it too."
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006989.php
about. fucking. time.
Get Chimpy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now that he's spoken, of course, they won't change their mind, but I'm tired of trying to fight this war of ideas without the President's help. As you said, About Fucking Time.
bill, you ignorant little bitch, I've got 9.5 years of active duty Air Force under my belt, I've been deployed to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Turkey, supported Operation Southern Watch and Northern Watch, and I've thus come to the conclusion that cocksucking little whores like you don't get to tell people like me off.
Now fuck off, assbiscuit, the adults are trying to have a conversation here.
I have a lot of friends currently and formerly serving overseas, when you travel to the remote places of world like I do, you meet a lot of US military. I tend to like most of them.
None of them is as loud a barking cock-face as you, except one, an Air Force mechanic who wishes he could fly. Your military service gains you the gratitude and admiration of all of us...but gives you no more license to opinion than anyone else. That is the beauty of America...however, if you lived in Guatemala, for example, you could just shoot any assbiscuits you didn't like, take their house and live happily ever after.
But alas, Bowen, you live here. Now...
"Point the finger on the legacy issue"? Time moves on, buddy. No president escapes the legacy issue, and Bush is responsible for his, as is Clinton. No one, including Josh Marshall gave Clinton a free pass once it became clear that he lied. I remember how angry I was with Clinton for effectivly destroying 7 years of the best times this country has known. If it weren't for his fucking blowjobs, there is NO WAY Bush would have had a chance in hell, and Al Gore would be president today.
Oh, well...
Bush's legacy will be worse than LBJ and Nixon combined, for as a human he is far less inspiring and admirable than either one, and history will judge only record and not the man...for G.W. Bush is a wholly unremarkable man.
. . . a sad, pathetic man.
Except, of course, when he is the living embodiment of all eville as he bends the world to his Machiavellian will for war. Only now do we realize the devious extent of his twisted lies!
Only the progressive mind seees no conflict in professing these diametrically opposed positions simultaneously. BDS is a powerful thing, transporting liberals beyond parody or farce, to a bold new world of alternately constructed reality that is nontheless reality based - fake, but accurate.
Much like the mindset that presumes to lecture a service member on who has "more license to opinion than anyone else", for expressing an opinion.
your kundalini flows from the lower chakras...like a dog purposefully stalking down the block, you defend your territory - pissing everywhere.
I have never said anything along the lines of "he is the living embodiment of all eville", because I don't hold Bush in that high regard. As I said, to me he is a completyely uninspiring, barely literate, immature 50-something frat-boy. To me he is the crude son of the elite, as much of an embarrasment to his elders as anything else. To me he is a failed businessman and was a crooked governor. He was placed into the presidency by his elders and a ruthless political genious- Karl Rove, in order to progress the neoconservative Republican agenda.
I think that if you objectivly look at the last 5 years, you will see this to be true.
Luckily now, the GOP is no longer afraid of him or Karl and Cheney, and congress is now starting to operate in the interest of the people, as the shutting down of the ANWR drilling proposition and the postponement of the tax reconciliation mark up, stopping an extension of the capital gains and dividend tax cuts shows.
Soon, power will be back in the hands of the people...what frightens me though, is that these guys will no go without a fight- and they've already proven that they will do anything to remain in power.
But then, I don't see anything you've ever said that supports the thesis that you're mature enough to understand that, so rant on with your bad self.
Gawd, what I wouldn't give to see your face when the Republicans win another 15 seats in the House and 5 in the Senate in 2006. And 2008? I'm not taking any bets that you'll live that long without your head exploding from sheer bloody frustration that all those ignorant, simplisme American voters continue to drift right wing.
The greatest irony is that people like you continue to push them that direction.
Wow. That was deep, Z. No, really - I don't see how anyone could avoid stepping in a pile of shit that big. Tell me, where does your crapalini flow from - your upper chakras?
As I said, to me he is ...
To me he is ...
To me he is ...
Yup. It's all about you, Zorro - but then with progressives it always is. Unfortunately for your sad little fantasies, to the rest of the world George Bush is the President of the United States, and you're just a leech, living off the charity of others.