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Troubling questions, no good answers

April 13th, 2004

You need to go right now and take a good, long look at these photos Charles links to, of which this is only one shameful example:


Enemy propaganda

…and then you, and me, and every other American who is truly concerned about how the hell we’re going to ensure the continued survival of this country as a free and sovereign nation, all need to do some hard and careful thinking.

These people are not just antiwar; they’re not just on the other side. They’re not just stupid, or misguided, or eccentric or well-meaning or “just kids” or any of the thousand other dodges we employ to avoid acknowledging the appalling truth. These people are the enemy – just another tentacle on the body of the beast that would sooner see us destroyed than accommodated or compromised with. I don’t have any practical suggestions on the best way of hacking this particular tentacle off, but we’d better start thinking about it. Because sooner or later, the impulse to treason on the part of these detestable mouth-breathers is going to have to be reckoned with just as surely – and quite possibly just as harshly – as the impulse to murder on the part of anybody sitting in Gitmo right now has been. They might well be simply dupes, useful fools – but does their blind ignorance make them any less of a threat to victory?

Reasoning with them doesn’t work; they’re impervious to little things like facts and logic. Our own principles dictate that their vileness be tolerated, at least to some degree. But that’s the big question here: to what degree must they be tolerated? What obligation do we as a free society have to them simply by reason of the accident of their being born here? How far will we let them go towards undermining, halting, and eventually rolling back all progress in the WoT before clamping down? Social approbation and scorn has been enough to keep them and their excesses in some kind of check in the past, but now that we as a society are no longer working from a shared assumption of the essential superiority and rightness of Western civilization – and clearly, we are not; if you asked any of the people in the pics, they’d straighten up any misperceptions on that for you with no hesitation – can we entrust the defense of our culture to such a passive mechanism as that? Or are more active measures called for? I don’t know the answer; to tell the truth, I’m not all that comfortable with the question in the first place. But if this isn’t plain treason, then at the very least that fine line is inching closer to us with every latest mad parade these lunatics put together. And denying it, hiding ourselves from it, won’t make it go away.

Their numbers are pretty small, and seem to be getting smaller, and I suppose that in itself might make the issue moot: as the freaks further marginalize themselves, more reasonable people – those who truly are misguided, or stupid, or just too young to know better – will recoil in disgust. Simple demographics might solve the problem for us. But meanwhile, we’ve got real people committing real acts of protest that dance ever closer to real treason (usually in a pink tutu or on stilts, for some reason), and the response so far has been almost astonishingly mild. That will change sooner or later, most assuredly, either by spontaneous acts of aggressive confrontation on the part of patriots deeply offended by this stuff, or some more official means – because they seem determined to paint us into a corner, to provoke the very reactions they rail against. They won’t ever allow for the fact that they might be wrong, that their own actions might be more responsible for the coming repression than any natural tendency towards it on the part of the people they so hate – which is us, in case you missed that little factoid.

Look at the pictures, walk away and cool off some, and then go back and look at them again. If you can come to any other conclusion, a more positive one than I have, I’d love to hear about it. Sometimes I think it’s going to be a very ugly summer indeed. And sometimes I get sickened enough by this mindless, vicious crap that the only reply I can muster is the most belligerent one: bring it on.

Update! Michele is thinking along very similar lines.

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  1. April 13th, 2004 at 09:17 | #1
    What do we do?

    Stockpile guns and ammunition. For the most part, these are the same people that wet their pants at the sight of a firearm. When the time comes, they are going to be in for the shock of a lifetime when they realize that all the Brady Bunch and "Million" Moms managed to do was drive gun ownership underground.

    I am afraid, more now so than even during the Clinton administration {spit}, that we are seeing the beginnings of a second Civil War. The pundits liked to spout about how the country was "evenly divided" during the 2000 election. I fear it runs deeper than that.

  2. April 13th, 2004 at 09:32 | #2
    What is bothersome is that there's a fine line betwen supporting terrorisim and becoming a terorist yourself. It takes no great act of courage to set a bomb at a recruiting station, or set fire to the home of someone with a Bush sign on hs front yard. As the "anti-war" voices become shriller and shriller, the possibility of this crossover becomes high.

    More concerning, our intelligence services are reluctant to investigate these groups for fear of being branded as witch hunters.

    I can only hope that I'm being too pessimestic.

  3. April 13th, 2004 at 10:03 | #3
    Abe Lincoln, widely considered our greatest President ever, ordered people imprisoned for the duration of the Civil War for a lot less than this.

    For me the line is really quite simple. Comments like "we're going about this all wrong" or "we should never have gotten involved in the first place" are legitimate dissent. But anyone who claims solidarity with our enemies is by definition our enemy, and should be treated as such.

    For those who think that my attitude tramples on the First Amendment I can only say this : I forget who it was, but a smarter man than I once said that the Bill of Rights isn't meant to be a suicide pact.

  4. Ken Hahn
    April 13th, 2004 at 13:20 | #4
    A cancer is a very small mass compared to the body it inhabits, but it can kill. The cancer is part of the body but is its mortal enemy. The "protesters" are a cancer on the heart of America. Opposing policy is a right of all people and especially of Americans. The right carries the responsibility to stop short of active efforts to destroy the country. When you become a cancer cell, you risk being surgically removed.

    I'd love to be able to afford the luxery of a civil debate with the antiwar crowd. But they don't want debate or discussion, just surrender. And the enemies they are assisting don't allow debate or discussion. The first amendment prevents the government from silencing its critics. It does not prevent anyone from pointing out the essential anti-Americanism of those who support our enemies.

  5. david
    April 13th, 2004 at 14:08 | #5
    We're evenly divided. It used to be that we could talk to each other across a little line in the sand. Now we shout at each other across a divide which increasingly looks like the Grand Canyon.

    But we're still evenly divided.

  6. decoy
    April 13th, 2004 at 16:36 | #6
    I have no solution. I can say, however, that I would have some respect for these pussies if they wouldn't protest in San Fran or the "Village". I say "have them try and pull some of this shit on the steps of the county courthouse in Muskogee, Oklahoma during a 4th of July parade". If they can survive 10 minutes without getting the shit beat out of them, only then will I be impressed or have any respect for that kind of scum.
  7. David Gillies
    April 13th, 2004 at 18:57 | #7
    When I see a photo of someone carrying a sign supporting the terrorists in Iraq, I want to hit him so hard with a pickaxe handle that his skull explodes. I actively wish death on these people. They are cockroaches, and have no more justification in continuing to draw breath than the goose-stepping hordes in Nuremberg in 1938.
  8. Keith
    April 13th, 2004 at 19:56 | #8
    Ken Hahn--what you said.

    And i'm with David Gillies...maybe it IS time to take a pickaxe handle to these assholes. They're not just an alternative voice--they've become the proxies of radical islam and should be treated accordingly.
    Legitimate dissent, it ain't.

  9. April 13th, 2004 at 20:51 | #9
    None of us are comfortable with these questions, Mike. None of us enjoy looking at neighbors and fellow citizens as potential and/or active enemy. None of us are comfortable with the vista that that view opens up onto.

    That's one of the differences: these folks are way too comfortable with it, and they're relishing it. We are enemy to them, and they have no discomfort in that awareness.

    May not be an interesting summer, but I think it has potential to be a very bloody fall.

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