A look ahead

CW v2.0, secession, and/or the breakup of the FUSA will not be anything like what some seem to imagine.

IMHO, whatever the red-and-blue patchwork remnants of the US map look like, they’re going to be run by corporations or warlords, or both. The a-holes that are currently riding herd on the this giant ponzi scheme are not just going to take their ruin philosophically.

And as crappy as the laws are at protecting our rights, liberties, and property now, they are going to be worse.

Also, there isn’t going to be some dramatic moment when “its over.” No one’s going to announce the end of the United States. They aren’t going to board up the doors of the FBI offices. They’re still going to have presidential elections. They’re still going to play the national anthem at your son’s basketball game.

Its going to be like the Warlords Period in China. There’s going to be areas where the government doesn’t assert control, doesn’t go – could be mountains, could be cities. You’ll hear rumors of ugly things happening there, but you won’t see any videos because Youtube will take them down. Decent people will leave those areas. Then one day out of the blue, some armed men are going to show up and want your stuff – you don’t know who they are, where they’re from. They don’t care about you or your politics, or your particular take on Edmund Burke or transgender bathrooms, but they’re going to take your F-150 and any gas you have. And maybe your food too. And that’s how you’ll find out that the United States has collapsed.

In my opinion this forecast is a lot nearer the mark than others I’ve seen put forth out there, although of course we won’t know it until we’re neck-deep in it. Bracken’s fantastic Enemies Foreign And Domestic trilogy, which I’ve mentioned here previously a time or three, is another slice of grim prescience that I think is right on target. Simultaneously depressing and gripping, I simply can’t recommend it strongly enough.

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John Wilder

Interesting take, but that’s already the case (warlords taking your stuff) in some of the larger cities.  It will be (IMHO) much worse than that.  I’m expecting Bosnia in Chicago and a bigger moving of peoples than we’ve ever seen in this country.

Ironbear

Bracken says Bosnia x Rwanda, and I think he’s right, with the caveat that:

It’s gonna be regional. Bosnia x Rwanda in the big blue urban and suburban areas.

Bleeding Kansas and Red Legs Missouri is places like where I live.

Iraq x Afghanistan in lower Texas. (South of DFW and especially south of Austin) Effectively a vast guerilla warfare zone, insurgency and counter insurgency writ large and small. Places like the King Ranch will once again become their independent own fiefdoms.

Southern California will more or less quietly become Mexico, because Mexico is where the Mexicans live, and it’ll be run by the Cartels just as northern Mexico is.

Rest of the country could go any number of ways, your guess is as good as mine.

Barry

Anyone living in a large city needs to get out, that is a certainty. And judging from what I see both at home and here on the Island, a large number of people are early adopters of this philosophy.

A lot is assumed here though, such as communications being cut off. I’m not sure that is going to happen. Youtube censorship is not quite cutting us out of the communication loop since there are other means. Truly getting cutoff is being forewarned as to what is coming.

Barry

http://themostimportantnews.com/the-wildest-home-buying-binge-in-u-s-history-has-pushed-home-prices-to-hyperinflationary-levels/

For every rise there is an inevitable fall. I have this nagging feeling the next one is out there and will make the 2008 real estate led crash look tame.

Ironbear

Best time to buy a gun and ammo was February of last year.

Best time to move out of a Big Blue Hive and into rural/semi-rural area was ten years ago.

It’s gonna be rough on the late movers in a lot of areas once the balloons start going up.

HazHap

And judging from what I see both at home and here on the Island, a large number of people are early adopters of this philosophy.

Is it really a large number, though? Compared to the local population it may be a sizable number of people moving in, but as a fraction of the population of the urban hives I suspect it is rather small. Many people don’t have the resources/finances to make such a move even if they wanted to, and huge numbers won’t even think about doing so until the bloodshed begins in earnest. Look at how many people still live in hellholes like Chicago or Baltimore. Even places like Detroit still have quite a lot of people, despite being far smaller than they were half a century ago.

Barry

Fair point, and I don’t know the answer. Here on the island almost everything that goes up for sale is under contract within a week, sometimes the first day. But that is a small number compared to any urban hive. Outside Charlotte where I am, land prices have nearly doubled for the tracts most suitable as housing development. They are building like mad and prices have gone up at least 25% with no end in sight. But there will be an end I suspect, one like we haven’t seen before. I will hope for a soft landing however. Perhaps the new normal is really a new normal.

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