I almost appended this to the Trump post below as another example of somebody coming around to embrace Teh Rebellion at last, but…well, naaaah.
Donald Trump’s whole position on this has been that we are all at risk from Islamist extremists who want to kill us. And he has come up with endless ways he is suggesting of trying to stop this. You may not agree with him, but that is where he is coming from. After what has been happening in London and Manchester, has Trump not got a point?
Is he not allowed as President of the United States to say ‘Wake up everybody! We are in a war here.’?
Brace yourselves, gang; in fact, you better sit down for it. That’s Piers Morgan—PIERS FUCKING MORGAN, ferchrissakes—quoted above. He was interviewing London’s terrorist-supporting sleeper-Muslim mayor, whose response was:
KHAN: Let me tell you what I was commenting on when I said he was ignorant. The idea at the time, when he was a candidate, of banning all Muslims from going to the USA, and I made the point that his views are ignorant — why? Because there are literally million of Muslims born and raised in America who love their country… But also there are millions of Muslims around the world who love America –me included– who love Americans. Who have family in America. And playing to the ISIS narrative that Western liberal values are incompatible with Islam is ignorant.
Okay, first off, you fucking insidious liar: Trump never once, not even ONCE, suggested “banning all Muslims” from etc. It was actually an extension of an Obama edict that…oh, to hell with all that. I am all done with being lured into the weeds, arguing minutiae with dishonest liars. It’s a distraction, and it ain’t no accident that they do it, if you ask me. To hell with arguing on their dishonest terms; I won’t do it with Muslim frauds any more than I will with the Left. Once they get you chasing your tail like that, the game is over, and they won.
Second: Western values incompatible with Islam? Well, depends, I guess. If you mean the Islam of the Koran and the hadiths, yeah, they most certainly are. But if you mean the milder Islam embraced by a tiny handful of more-moderate Muslims scattered here and there across the globe, well, Islam has a word for that, too: APOSTASY. You can go look for yourself what the punishment for that is.
All that said, I must tentatively doff the CF chapeau to these guys:
Over 130 imams from across the United Kingdom have said they will refuse to perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the London and Manchester terror attackers. The ritual is normally carried out for every Muslim, regardless of their actions.
In what is a highly unusual move, Muslim religious leaders from different schools of Islam — both Sunni and Shia — issued a statement late Monday saying their pain at the suffering of the victims of Saturday’s attacks had led to their decision, and they called on others imams to follow suit.
“We are deeply hurt that a spate of terror attacks have been committed in our country once more by murderers who seek to gain religious legitimacy for their actions. We seek to clarify that their reprehensible actions have neither legitimacy nor our sympathy,” the statement put out by the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), an umbrella body representing over 500 organizations, read.
At risk of being an asshole here, I must say I am more than a little skeptical of this. Much as I would love to wholeheartedly welcome and endorse such a move—it’s exactly the kind of gesture we’ve said all along needs to be made by reasonable Muslims, and the onus is surely on them to do it—well, frankly, I don’t trust them. The rest of their statement has a pretty greasy feel to it, which doesn’t do much to allay my suspicions:
“Consequently, and in light of other such ethical principles which are quintessential to Islam, we will not perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the perpetrators and we also urge fellow imams and religious authorities to withdraw such a privilege. This is because such indefensible actions are completely at odds with the lofty teachings of Islam,” the statement continued.
See what I mean? A lot of noise about “the lofty teachings of Islam,” and what is and is not “ethical principles which are quintessential to Islam.” Tell me, is abject subjugation of women one of those “lofty teachings”? The killing of gays, the enslavement into dhimmitude of all non-Muslims? It would seem so; it’s all right there in the Koran, after all. Sorry, but this sounds too much like a press release penned by some grubby hack working for a third- or fourth-tier PR firm to me. This, too, only reinforces my skepticism:
He said that while a campaign would be launched to urge mosques to increase their vigilance, “the path towards extremism is outside of the mosque and at the margins of society.”
Umm, no. Not even close. The path towards extremism runs directly through the mosque, into and then out again; in fact, the mosques are a prime source of the problem here, as has been demonstrated again and again. As I’ve said: the problem isn’t some supposed “perversion” of Islam; the problem is Islam, as specifically and unmistakably delineated in its own “sacred” texts.
I dunno, maybe they’re sincere; I most surely hope so, as must we all. If so, good on ’em. But I’ll hold to my skepticism for now; Lord knows the Muslim world has earned that skepticism many times over, and one hell of a lot more besides.